Shamima Begum has her citizenship revoked

[KenAdams]

How can this happen? I thought they aren't allowed to leave a person stateless? Not that I'm disagreeing, I'm just wondering how they managed it.

Great news. Sends a message out plus think of all the money the tax payer will save. The main thing is safety for my children one less terriost on the streets who knows what she got up to out there.

My cousins child was killed in the Manchester bombings, I’m so glad she isn’t allowed back in this country.

Here are two more things she needs to do to become a dutch citizen (there are more but that would make a long post):

	You are <a class="break-all" href="https://ind.nl/en/Pages/Integration-in-the-netherlands.aspx#Civic-integration-for-naturalisation" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sufficiently integrated</a>d_. This means that you can read, write, speak and understand Dutch. You show this with the civic integration diploma.
	When applying for naturalisation,  there can be no ongoing criminal proceedings against you in the Netherlands or abroad.

@PostmanPatIsIncompetent an interesting perspective. Thank you!

It was about two days ago I read that someone, might have been Javid stated that the baby's citizenship was more complicated than the mother's. I think they knew then that they could revoke hers, but the baby was a whole other ballgame. However, if it has never had citizenship anywhere, nobody is leaving it stateless. It just is. If she is Bangladeshi, then I would presume the baby is also.

If true, the best news I have heard all week!

@Sparklyboots. ”Bloody hell, she's a traumatised kid with a baby, I despair.”

Really, you despair!
The interview with her didn’t show a traumatised kid, it showed a woman who has no regrets about joining ISIS. Decapitated heads didn’t faze her (presume she didn’t have any problems with the executions either) and she would still be in ISIS if they hadn’t been driven into a hole. But now that she’s in a refugee camp, where life is difficult, she wants to come back to the UK!
This is a radicalised young woman, who still believes in ISIS, not the poor confused little girl that Sparklyboots describes.
I presume Anthony Loyd has got her “signed up” for Shamina, the inside story!
For her own safety (and probably ours), I home she never sets foot in the UK again!

3. It's perfectly fair to ban an unremorseful extremist from a country they don't want to live in, and moreover from a country whose values they do not believe in nor follow
4. It sets an excellent precedent, warning would be terrorists of the repercussions of partaking in terrorist activity

Well that would be great IF the UK hadn't knowingly let in 400 ex IS fighters who are unremorseful, who hate the UK, who did the beheadings, the rapes and the fighting and who righ now, walk about with immunity - ver very few have had any sort of trial or rehab.....

I'd rather her in the UK, than in another failed state plotting her revenge.

explodingkitten she's got no chance anyway as she would first have to live in the Netherlands for three years with her husband (and get married under Dutch law). Unless she gets here before Brexit day she's got no hope!

The other thing is, she has the right to appeal. I'm guessing her parents can't appeal on her behalf.

She stated she wants to live under sharia law. So why want to come back to Britain?
Maybe the thought of being found guilty under a Sharia system is frightening when you're the one on trial?
(I read somewhere that Syria courts are not sharia-based. I wouldn't know. But I'm sure that their justice system is harsher than the UK's)

She doesn't want to come back here for any good reason. Just that it's shit where she is now.

I really can’t care about what happens to her. Does she really expect to evoke sympathy in that interview? It was truly hideous.

The letter from the HO asks the parents to pass the information onto her.

Bloody hell, she's a traumatised kid with a baby, I despair
I despair at all the traumatised Syrian and Iraqi kids. She doesn't even feature on the list of people I feel for in all this.

She's not remotely traumatised!

You hear it all the time after terrorist attacks that the perpetrator was known to the authorities, yet we have people here suggesting that a known terrorist sympathiser (who ran away to be with fucking ISIS!!) should be "de-radicalised" and let back in to the UK. If she was groomed over here then I dread to think what the ISIS equivalent of that is - you can bet your ass she would be doing the grooming if she was allowed back.

It's a matter of security and nothing else in my mind.

I'm guessing her parents can't appeal on her behalf

The mother is dead. The father is mysteriously absent and spent most of her childhood in Bangladesh. She was raised by her mother until her death, her maternal grandmother and her uncle (mother’s brother I think). Uncle is a religious fanatic. Pound to a penny the grandmother speaks no English. This sounds like a Bangladeshi enclave culturally and linguistically isolated from the uk.

I read somewhere that Syria courts are not sharia-based. I wouldn't know. But I'm sure that their justice system is harsher than the UK's)

Syria was a secular society, not a Shsria one . It was also a dictatorship with a secret police so yes, their justice system was obviously harsher than ours.

I'm so relieved the government has been strong on this issue.

Brilliant news.

Rather than say why not let her back if 300 others have come back, I think let her be the precedent - no longer are they allowed to come back if they willingly left

If that's what really followed from this, some of us would consider all the uproar to have been well worth it

Among the fuss the really crucial thing often gets overlooked, which for me is the safety of the vast majority - and this wretch and her cohorts aren't exactly going to facilitate that

I just can't imagine having the Gaul to be publicly speaking on behalf of child who did this.... talk about biting the hand that feeds. No sense of Shame or embarrassment from the family...

Great news!!! 🎉

Genevieva I can see that with hindsight although that was the intention.

Intohell

Anyone who commits a serious crime rejects our value system. They are given right to trial and either imprisoned or some other punishment. This applies to serial murders, serial rapists, human traffickers and even paedophiles and peddlers of child pornography. It's not about how the criminal feels. We do not execute arbitrary justice. Yes we fight for this. Its a defining aspect of our country.

So tell me why this girl who was just 15 when she left is being singled out, this week in particular, for summary justice by the HO when again, there appear to be a fair few people who could feasibly be living on your street who are known to probably have had more of an active share in supporting terrorism, yet are getting on with their lives without intrusion from the media or having HO officials banging down their door demanding their passports?

This girls timing was a gift to the government.

If the government wants to change the laws then it should go through the process of having it debated in parliament, sent through the house of lords and given to the Queen for Royal assent. Not have the media force its hand into making knee jerk decisions. Who runs this country? These days I'm confused