Can anyone advise. Exp in psychiatric ward. Homeless. Discharging.

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My exp is in hospital as suicidal

She can't come back here.

I've told the ward and they still tried to discharge her

They've kept her in but I'm scared they're going to try and discharge her again

I called Manchester Social care and they said she should have a care co ordinator who helps with those things

Other wise she needs to present at the town hall as homeless.

She's locked up right now but if she's let out she wont do that

I'm going round in circles

She can't claim any benefits as she has no address

Can anyone please help

She's really suicidal and ill.

I don't know who to contact

I'm sorry I can't hlep, but someone will be along soon.

Thankyou

They've said it can calendar is to get a care co ordinator.

I'm just being passed around

• Can take weeks

Excuse my typing I'm exhaused

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I’ve been in similar situations with my ex. Unfortunately the mental health care in this country is absolutely terrible.

Does she have a social worker? I would phone them back and demand an urgent meeting. If that fails and she is discharged then the safest thing for you to do is probably to let her stay with you until you can go to the town hall with her and report as homeless. Does she have any family?

She doesn't have a social worker.

I can't let her stay here. I know it sounds horrible buts manipulated me to staying her for months with threats to harm herself

I have kids and I can't manage her and them.. I have to hide her pills from her and give them out like a nurse.

I've had social services call due to her suicidal threats whilst kids being home.

I won't expose them to this any longer.

That being said I want to help her

She has a mum and nana but they haven't offered her a place.

Change your locks. Is ether any chance your ex has 'matrimonial ' rights to live in your place? Eg paid the rent, paid towards bills? I would get legal advice ASAP. I've been in similar situation and despite the house being mine my ex was discharged to my home and the courts said he had the right to live there. It took a crisis to get that reversed and cost a lot of money.

I sympathise with the ex, it's hard enough to get housing keg alone with severe MH problems,

No. It's council rented and she's paid no rent at all towards it.

If she is truly ex, then stop engaging with the hospital. Tell them her mum's contact details and walk away. You can't have her so make the hospital deal with who can.

I posted on your previous thread.

I think you need to take a step back here. Tell the hospital clearly that you cannot house her. They can then contact her family. If they cannot house her then they will be obliged to ensure she has a place to be discharged to and social services/housing will become involved.

You need to keep your children safe and preserve our sanity. You cannot help your ex no matter how much you care about her.

I think you're going to stop advocating for her and give them her mum's details. You can't have her discharged into your care (which seems totally reasonable), so they will have to take it up with her family or ultimately end up liaising with social services to move her on (in the nicest of ways, but they will only push for social services if they need her bed badly enough).

She needs to get in contact with a Mental Health Advocacy Service ASAP. They can give assistance, and they can stop the hospital just releasing her.

But everyone else is right, the more YOU engage with the hospital, the more they believe you will not let her be homeless and will take her in.

:(

But they almost discharged her homeless a few days ago. They don't seem to care

It's only when I ring does anything get done

I understand what you are saying though

But it's hard to walk away with a clear conscience

I feel cruel cutting contact completely

And they know that most people won't walk away, they count on it. Makes their job easier if they can guilt someone into taking responsibility.

Point out to them that discharge to you a) would be a safeguarding risk to your dc b) would slow down her being found accommodation and c) isn’t an option.
Ask them to have CAB speak to her on the ward re benefits and to ascertain a hospital place is available and provide transportation there/ provide transportation to present to homeless services on discharge.
If you have reason to believe she’s actively suicidal still, make sure you share those reasons and ask them to document them. That may encourage a review of risk assessment or more robust discharge planning. Realistically she won’t be assigned a hostel place until discharge as she doesn’t qualify whilst an inpatient, but they can make sure there is availability and she can present herself to get one at the point of discharge. They should also have a crisis plan in place, which they can share with you only if she consents.

Oh, and contact advocacy or PALS to support with navigating it all.

You could make a referral to your local MASH if you have one ? (Multi agency safeguarding hub)

But if she knows that you are doing all this for her won't she think you still care for her, and that therefore there is still hope for a relationship with you?

You can't "save" her OP. She has family and you should keep away from her entirely.

She doesn't have family though.

She does physically but they don't care or won't help her.

She said a nurse said she would help her make some calls tomorrow

Feel free to PM me, I work in mental health in the Greater Manchester area, I may be able to offer advice.

She needs to present at he council as homeless, you may need to write a letter to say that she cant stay with you anymore. She will probably be put in temporary accommodation (b and b) and put on housing register. I work in homelessness prevention feel free to ask me anything.