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Madhatter24 · 05/12/2018 20:21

This is quite a long thread but I want you to get all the information as I am really confused and want to give my friend the best advice.

A friend of mine who was returning from holiday, she was travelling with her brother, his wife, their two young children and my elderly mother in law who is age 70+. They were seated separately on the plane, my friend was seated upstairs and everyone else was seated downstairs together. The niece was crying for my friend and she was becoming agitated as she is very attached to her and she is always with her, however as she was seated upstairs she couldn't sit with her. My friend asked the stewardess it was it possible for her to sit near her family and they said once everyone is boarded, if there's a way they can swap her with another passenger they will. She accepted this and was waiting patiently for the flight to board and take off. Another passenger on the plane complained to the steward and said that my friends niece is ill and should be checked over by a doctor before being allowed to fly (she was crying quite loudly and my friends sis in law was trying desperately to calm her).

The stewardess then goes over to the sister in law and asks if the child is ill. The sister-in-law explained that she's not ill and she is crying for her auntie and who is seated upstairs.

Another stewardess then goes upstairs and said that My friend need to go downstairs (she didn't say why and my friend thought it was because they found a seat for her near her family).
In the meantime My friend was not aware of this but the stewardess that was in charge was asking her family to get off the flight and get the child checked by a doctor within the airport. The sister-in-law and brother were saying that the child is not ill and that she is crying because she wants to be seated with her auntie. However they were refusing to listen and said that they must all get off the flight and get the child checked by the doctor within the airport. They were absolutely refusing to listen. They were trying to explain to them that they are travelling with an elderly person and to young children.

As they kept on trying to explain the situation to the stewardess and explain that the child is not ill and she is only upset because she wants to be seated with her auntie, they started getting increasingly rude and saying get out of this plane now. Eventually they had no option but to leave the flight. They went to the medical room and the doctor checked the child and said that there is absolutely no reason why the child cannot fly. They then went back to the check-in desk And they said that as they have missed their flight and that they need to pay a penalty of £200 each. Again they tried to explain the situation to the check in staff and said that they were removed from the flight due to no fault of their own and it was only because a another passenger complained that the small child was ill when she wasn't she was only crying because she wanted to be sat next to her auntie. However once again they were not being reasonable and would not listen to our side. They eventually had to pay £100 per person as a penalty for missing the flight.

When they arrived back at Heathrow, a few pieces of luggage arrived however the reminder of the luggage arrived in dribs and drabs over the next few days delivered to the home address.

My friend has been completely and utterly broken by this whole experience. It has caused her to become ill and she is unable to work because the of the stress this whole situation caused. What would you do in this situation? I was thinking of tagging the airline (emirates) on a Facebook page, however thinking a bit deeper was thinking maybe write to them and see what their response is.

She saying it's not just about the financial loss that they incurred, it's about the stress and ordeal they had to go through with two young children and elderly mother-in-law. All because another person just said that the child was ill. This has completely ruined her holiday and she has just become a recluse and feels like a complete failure for not having managed the situation better at the time. I'm sorry this is such a long post but I just want to get all the details in.

WWYD.

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TigerTooth · 05/12/2018 22:09

My friend has been completely and utterly broken by this whole experience. It has caused her to become ill and she is unable to work because the of the stress this whole situation caused.

WWYD? I'd tell my friend to get a fucking grip and her dramatic arse back to work.

TwiceMagic · 05/12/2018 22:11

Maybe she got everyone arrested

It would be quite something if the aunt got the children arrested.

Thejezebel · 05/12/2018 22:12

I don't use Twitter, but I'd love to tag this thread to them to see what their response is.
OP could you be so kind as to provide us with the date and time and flight number of the flight you were so violently brutally thrown off?

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NonaGrey · 05/12/2018 22:12

Lots of people querying your very strange story is not bullying or violent.

Your story doesn’t make sense. It makes slightly more sense following the massive drip feed about the children’s SEN but it still has several gaping holes in it.

If the majority of respondents agree it doesn’t mean they are copying each other’s opinion, it just means they hold a majority opinion which is different from yours.

There are a whole list of outstanding questions about this.
I’d bet the airline staff have an entirely different story.

You shouldn’t do anything, it’s not your business and nothing to do with you.

I’m mystified why you’d never consider engaging with the airline over an incident that has nothing to do with you.

Thejezebel · 05/12/2018 22:13

Well it's the only plausible explanation I can think of to such a dramatic reaction to being thrown off a flight!

GreenTulips · 05/12/2018 22:14

I think they should chill this up to experience

No need for all to disembark
Good reason to pay to sit together
Parents should effectively parent their child

Move on

Dinosaursdontgrowontrees · 05/12/2018 22:17

I have flown on this airline with my autistic 4 yr old and they couldn’t of been more understanding, they were wonderful with her. Did the family explain the child had autism?
I think you need to step back from this op not your story not your fight.

paintinmyhairAgain · 05/12/2018 22:17

op your account reads like you were there, your story is very detailed and so much more was added on after peeps slated you. information that should have been in the first post. don't be surprised so many people have said how silly this all is, because it sounds so silly.

empmalswa · 05/12/2018 22:18

I've never been on a plane with 2 floors for passengers and I've done long haul. Is this a new thing?

Well the 747 entered commercial flight in 1970, so I guess it depends what you consider to be 'new'

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 05/12/2018 22:18

I must say I am extremely surprised by this whole saga that your "friend" flying with 2 young, autistic children didn't make very sure to book the seats so that her party could sit together.

Johnnyfinland · 05/12/2018 22:19

MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION is that your friend sounds like a lunatic for that reaction. I have depression and anxiety and even I think that’s fucking batshit to be so “broken” you can’t work. I second the person who said perhaps some help with her mental health is in order.

Annoying, stressful, infuriating even - yes. But the other passengers probably felt that way about a screaming child too.

Madhatter24 · 05/12/2018 22:20

Sorry auto correct. It was meant to say vile not violent. Also autism has just very recently been diagnosed so the family were not prepared for any of this. Also friend couldn't swap seats there and then as she was told to wait until all the passengers embarked and then if possible she may be able to swap. They couldn't book seats together because there were not enough seats empty together to accommodate this. She hasn't got any mental health issues and is a lovely outgoing caring person and is particularly attached to this child as she can't have any of her own. Lastly they were removed because the cabin crew were adamant the child was 'ill' (even though she wasn't and their medical officer confirmed this). She wasn't removed because of her crying. Thank you to the few nice replies but the majority of you are actually being really nasty. Finally it wasn't me FFS. It was actually my friend ( I don't know why that's relevant as this is all confidential anyway!!).

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paintinmyhairAgain · 05/12/2018 22:20

another one who would like to hear the other side of the story from the airline, incidently if you aren't the 'wronged party' why do you have such an invested interest in all of this to the point of wanting tocontact the air line to complain ?

Madhatter24 · 05/12/2018 22:23

I was trying to get some advice about what course of action they could take as they feel very wronged. However all I seemed to get was a load of abuse!!

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Starstruck2020 · 05/12/2018 22:23

Why did the whole family have to get off? Why not just one parent and the child? If they miss the flight then there is less disruption and a nice bit of bonding time with child and parent....

And like others have said, book seats in advance, especially if you have a child with special needs. Anticipate what those needs would be rather than waiting for events to unfold and have everyone deal with the fallout.

fleshmarketclose · 05/12/2018 22:24

I hav two dc with autism, everything takes meticulous planning. I would say that I would have expected the parents to have had the insight to know how to plan the journey so that there was the greatest chance of it being successful. At the very least I would expect them to have reserved seats so that the family was seated together even if only for supporting the children as well as to avoid the upset the children would experience. Usually airlines are incredibly helpful when you inform them of disabilities beforehand.

Charmlight · 05/12/2018 22:25

The family flew out cogniscent of the diagnoses presumably ?
The OP wasn’t even on the plane then? Half a story.

ReflectentMonatomism · 05/12/2018 22:25

No need for all to disembark

If they all decided to get in the crew's face, then everyone will get thrown off.

If you get involved in a shouting match with cabin crew, you are going to lose. Their employer and (usually) the local police will back them to the hilt.

dippledorus · 05/12/2018 22:25

Hey did your friend not go back upstairs and sit there since the kids weren’t hers?

Redglitter · 05/12/2018 22:25

If your friend turns into an unwell recluse because of a problem on a plane God help her when she has a real problem 🙄

Oakmaiden · 05/12/2018 22:25

this is all confidential

Hope it isn't confidential, as you have just posted it on the internet....

?I wouldn't even like to guarantee it is particularly anonymous...

Starstruck2020 · 05/12/2018 22:26

I don’t think there is any course of action. Probably a steep learning curve for your friend.

Maybe apart from appealing the fine?

bimbobaggins · 05/12/2018 22:26

Just because we don’t agree with you doesn’t mean people are nasty or vile. You can have a fairly robust discussion with someone without it being bullying or falling out.

Jasperoonicle · 05/12/2018 22:26

Not one bit of this makes sense. If the family were aware of issues then the seats could have been booked together. Booking with emirates is totally different to booking say Ryanair or the like and you certainly did not book last minute only to be horrified on arrival to the plane that you/your friend were seated in different areas. There is definitely more going on than a child having a tantrum over seating arrangements.

GhostSauce · 05/12/2018 22:29

How were they wronged?

What do you propose the airline should have done?

If a child is hysterical and vomiting and there is a chance they are ill (or are showing signs of being ill) of course the plane cannot take off.

How long do you believe the plane should have sat on the runway, delaying the rest of the passengers and the rest of the flights on that runway due to take off?

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