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Madhatter24 · 05/12/2018 20:21

This is quite a long thread but I want you to get all the information as I am really confused and want to give my friend the best advice.

A friend of mine who was returning from holiday, she was travelling with her brother, his wife, their two young children and my elderly mother in law who is age 70+. They were seated separately on the plane, my friend was seated upstairs and everyone else was seated downstairs together. The niece was crying for my friend and she was becoming agitated as she is very attached to her and she is always with her, however as she was seated upstairs she couldn't sit with her. My friend asked the stewardess it was it possible for her to sit near her family and they said once everyone is boarded, if there's a way they can swap her with another passenger they will. She accepted this and was waiting patiently for the flight to board and take off. Another passenger on the plane complained to the steward and said that my friends niece is ill and should be checked over by a doctor before being allowed to fly (she was crying quite loudly and my friends sis in law was trying desperately to calm her).

The stewardess then goes over to the sister in law and asks if the child is ill. The sister-in-law explained that she's not ill and she is crying for her auntie and who is seated upstairs.

Another stewardess then goes upstairs and said that My friend need to go downstairs (she didn't say why and my friend thought it was because they found a seat for her near her family).
In the meantime My friend was not aware of this but the stewardess that was in charge was asking her family to get off the flight and get the child checked by a doctor within the airport. The sister-in-law and brother were saying that the child is not ill and that she is crying because she wants to be seated with her auntie. However they were refusing to listen and said that they must all get off the flight and get the child checked by the doctor within the airport. They were absolutely refusing to listen. They were trying to explain to them that they are travelling with an elderly person and to young children.

As they kept on trying to explain the situation to the stewardess and explain that the child is not ill and she is only upset because she wants to be seated with her auntie, they started getting increasingly rude and saying get out of this plane now. Eventually they had no option but to leave the flight. They went to the medical room and the doctor checked the child and said that there is absolutely no reason why the child cannot fly. They then went back to the check-in desk And they said that as they have missed their flight and that they need to pay a penalty of £200 each. Again they tried to explain the situation to the check in staff and said that they were removed from the flight due to no fault of their own and it was only because a another passenger complained that the small child was ill when she wasn't she was only crying because she wanted to be sat next to her auntie. However once again they were not being reasonable and would not listen to our side. They eventually had to pay £100 per person as a penalty for missing the flight.

When they arrived back at Heathrow, a few pieces of luggage arrived however the reminder of the luggage arrived in dribs and drabs over the next few days delivered to the home address.

My friend has been completely and utterly broken by this whole experience. It has caused her to become ill and she is unable to work because the of the stress this whole situation caused. What would you do in this situation? I was thinking of tagging the airline (emirates) on a Facebook page, however thinking a bit deeper was thinking maybe write to them and see what their response is.

She saying it's not just about the financial loss that they incurred, it's about the stress and ordeal they had to go through with two young children and elderly mother-in-law. All because another person just said that the child was ill. This has completely ruined her holiday and she has just become a recluse and feels like a complete failure for not having managed the situation better at the time. I'm sorry this is such a long post but I just want to get all the details in.

WWYD.

OP posts:
ghostsandghoulies · 05/12/2018 21:45

Why didn't she pay to sit together or book early if her child needed everyone together?

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1 · 05/12/2018 21:45

It gets odder.

A 4 year old had a screaming tantrum because they couldn't all sit together as a family unit? Really? My 4 year old wouldn't even realise you could do this. Who told the 4 year old that they should all be able to sit together as a family when they are on a plane? It's just bizzare

TheBigFatMermaid · 05/12/2018 21:45

She works, the niece presumably goes to school. Most children are more bonded with their parents.

This child was just being bratty, having had a nice family holiday, enjoying her aunts company.

Seriously, your friend needs some help from the doctor. I can highly recommend Fluoxetine from personal experience. It helps me to cope with life a lot better and enables me to leave the house when otherwise life would be too much.

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Kintan · 05/12/2018 21:45

I don’t think everyone is copying each other OP, people are just reacting in a normal, rational way to the bonkers situation that you describe!

WWYDhelpplease · 05/12/2018 21:45

I fly LH frequently. Different airlines have different layouts. Many are business class upstairs but lots of the a380s have upstairs with a mix of premium and business. Emirates being one and Singapore another off the top of my head.

HungryForSnacks · 05/12/2018 21:45

I was thinking of tagging the airline (emirates) on a Facebook page, however thinking a bit deeper was thinking maybe write to them and see what their response is

Why, as the 'friend', would you do either of these things?!

dippledorus · 05/12/2018 21:46

They should have paid to sit together. Why didn’t they?

TheBhagwan · 05/12/2018 21:46

Actually @prestonsflowers there are economy seats upstairs on at least some Emirates flights, which I know bc I have sat up there at least 3-4 times when flying from Heathrow to Dubai, Dubai to Bangkok, or the same two in reverse.

TheBhagwan · 05/12/2018 21:46

Not that it makes the rest of this any less batshit!

TwiceMagic · 05/12/2018 21:48

I must say you are all being quite violent today I'm not really hearing what is being said.

No one is being violent. And you are definitely not hearing what is being said.

It’s definitely not copying that everyone has the same ‘WTF?’ reaction to this.

Thejezebel · 05/12/2018 21:49

Violence over d'internet.
It's a thing! To the OP FRIEND

dippledorus · 05/12/2018 21:49

Maybe your friend (you) should just book a wet weekend in Blackpool next time eh?

tillytoodles1 · 05/12/2018 21:50

How dramatic, So she's become a recluse after that? It's all a bit OTT.

morningtoncrescent62 · 05/12/2018 21:50

WWID? I'd advise my friend to put this one down to experience and next time be better planned and prepared.

Though as that's clearly not the response you want, I'm a bit mystified to know what responses you're expecting from an internet forum that will make things OK again. You say you're not after compensation. So what exactly do you want? No-one can go back in time and make it not happen. The only other thing I can offer that might be helpful is to suggest that if your friend persists in her extreme over-reaction you might want to suggest she sees a doctor as there may be an underlying mental health problem. If she really can't deal with this event without going into seclusion it sounds like she needs professional help.

Thejezebel · 05/12/2018 21:51

Op, have you any idea what the word violent means?
You can't be virtually violent.

You can be virtually incredulous, baffled, bemused, disbelieving, amazed, shocked, appalled, irritated but violent? No.

TheBhagwan · 05/12/2018 21:51

WWYDhelpplease does Emirates have premium economy? If so I wish they would offer it on the legs I fly! The economy seats upstairs are kind of nice bc there is a bit of extra storage next to the window and it’s a smaller cabin so can be quieter, but I think the ceilings are lower so if you are tall or claustrophobic you’d be better off downstairs.

JustWhatINeededNow · 05/12/2018 21:53

Who were the children sitting next to?

Btw my mum is 72 and would be horrified at being considered elderly (hiking, skiing etc)

NotANotMan · 05/12/2018 21:53

Violent GrinGrinGrin

diddl · 05/12/2018 21:54

So your friend who wasn't even sitting with them had to get off?

Blimey!

Notacluethisxmas · 05/12/2018 21:54

Wow! Huge drip feed. I would suggest, as the mother of a child with autism, that the family prebook their seats if the child can't be away from it auntie.

Odd they didn't do this.

Also, since you weren't there only have the version of your friend. Who, clearly, loves being dramatic and is prone to over react and exaggeration.

m0therofdragons · 05/12/2018 21:55

So essentially you're confirming that the dc wouldn't have calmed down and would have screamed all flight? You know dc have Sen so surely you work with that in mind and pay for seats together.

We (family of 2 adults and 3 dc aged 8 and twin 5yos) had a flight cancelled in the states and didn't get refunded for 6 months. It was internal so we had to hire a car and drive for 17 hours costing £1600 plus tolls and fuel. Insurance used a loophole not to pay! It's crap but life often doesn't go to plan, ours was through no fault of our own, this example was through a family behaving ridiculously.

dippledorus · 05/12/2018 21:55

If I was the friend I’d have said

I’m not with them.

And stayed on the flight!

Shepherdspieisminging · 05/12/2018 21:55

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nameuseroriginal · 05/12/2018 21:55

This is a great thread Grin

Worieddd · 05/12/2018 21:55

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