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Can we just leave them alone now please? Strictly Seann and Katya

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TwitterQueen1 · 10/10/2018 18:39

They don't deserve the to be so hung, drawn and quartered in public like this. There are many, many people who've been spotted having a snog whilst high on adrenalin / drink. None of us is perfect.

They've just apologised again on Strictly Take 2.

And please, no abuse towards me for posting this either.

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bbcessex · 10/10/2018 19:51

It gets me that it’s classified as a ‘drunken snog’ as though a: that happens and is beyond anyone’s control, and b: they haven’t been working together in incredibly close & intimate proximity for what, two months?

I’ve never accidentally snogged a colleague that I didn’t have feelings for. It’s not a foregone conclusion, and by the sounds of it, his long term partner had suspected & voiced fears prior to the ‘proof’, and been pretty much told she was a neurotic, jealous woman.

Tahani · 10/10/2018 19:54

so you start a new thread which keeps their names in the (mumsnet) spotlight?

I had never heard of them before the 'kiss' and quite frankly couldnt care less, but if people want to put themselves in the public eye (what else is strictly for?) they should be prepared to face consequences if they act like they have.

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TwitterQueen1 · 10/10/2018 19:56

Theknack So what is your view on the Zoe Ball snog of a few years' ago? What kind of 'excusing' do you think followed that?

Christiano R is currently being accused of rape. He's not had anywhere near the airtime, reproach, public vilification etc that these two have endured.

It was a snog! No DV, no abuse. Two consenting adults engaged in momentary madness. Do you really want to hang them up to dry for this? I find the judgment and harshness they've been subjected to quite sickening and totally inappropriate.

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Killerqueen2244 · 10/10/2018 20:02

No abuse? So gaslighting your ex isn’t abuse?! He’s shown himself to not be a very nice person, that alone is good enough reason not to support his journey through Strictly.

Theknacktoflying · 10/10/2018 20:05

Times have changed and I am sick of mealy moutned excuses for bad
behaviour ...
If the girlfriend’s account is to be believed he was pulled up by her on it and he denied it and was verbally aggressive ...
If he had a US passport, lots of money and some tictacs ...

ShirleyPhallus · 10/10/2018 20:06

Fantastic way of not drawing more attention to it.... by starting a new thread! Many more threads already discussing this btw

tentative3 · 10/10/2018 20:11

I'm bored of reading about it but if they wanted the story to die I don't know why they appeared on TV discussing it. Plus, as with most celebs who bleat about wanting privacy etc I kind of think live by the sword, die by the sword.

Padparadscha · 10/10/2018 20:19

No DV, no abuse

She stated he used verbally abusive and gaslighting language towards her. After his statement tonight about ‘those who actually love me don’t think badly of me’, I’m inclined to believe her.

sunshineNdaisies · 10/10/2018 20:20

I think he came across really cold and not at all remorseful when speaking to zoe (whom I don't like either for similar reasons)

And the fact Katya says she and her DH are completely fine. That's just weird. Clearly the rumours of their having an open marriage or him being gay have some truth in them. Why would you stay with someone who humiliates you and disrespects you so publicly?

Orlandointhewilderness · 10/10/2018 20:21

he is in the public eye, he very visibly cheated on his girlfriend on her birthday and completely humiliated her. the git gets everything he deserves, as does she. And personally i don't think it is that easy done, drunken kiss or not (and personally i think if they haven't slept together then i'm a supermodel) he cheated. and was pretty vile to his ex.

Thebeautifullisette · 10/10/2018 20:27

I agree orlando, personally I couldn’t care less who kisses whom but on your partner’s actual birthday FFS? Even if everything she said was untrue (though frankly I believe her 100%), just that on its own is pretty damning.

She hasn’t been humiliated though, he’s the one who’s embarrassed himself.

SillySallySingsSongs · 10/10/2018 20:44

It was a snog! No DV, no abuse.

His exGF has accused him of gaslighting. That is abuse.

Orlandointhewilderness · 10/10/2018 20:48

Agree with you beautiful but I'm betting that she isn't feeling like this -

"She hasn’t been humiliated though, he’s the one who’s embarrassed himself."

I'm betting, having been there (not in such a showbiz way lol!) that she feels horribly humiliated.

At least she got the cat though.

Fairyliz · 10/10/2018 20:50

I think the apology is because he is worried about not getting any public votes on Saturday rather than genuine remorse.

Bestseller · 10/10/2018 20:54

I'm an old cynic, but four B listers are now the top story in all news media.....

StateofIndependance · 10/10/2018 20:56

It's getting publicity because it's happened while they are both currently in one of the biggest tv shows going. If you watch then you already have some interest in them in that context. If this happened next February no would be remotely bothered.

StateofIndependance · 10/10/2018 20:58

And yes, starting a new thread is an excellent way to stop discussion Confused

AJPTaylor · 10/10/2018 21:02

They are twats.
Caught out by their twatty behaviour
Whilst on the most popular show on tv
That they are on solely for publicity.

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TwitterQueen1 · 10/10/2018 21:39

Shirley and State your comments are about 40 posts behind others - maybe RTT? completely irrelevant anyway.

The point I'm trying to make is that I don't agree with the very public trolling and real abuse of these two people who, ok, may not have behaved in the way that everyone else expects them to, but who have not actually committed any crime.

AJP... they are twats really? Not sure when kissing became a crime.

I suspect I'm older than a lot of posters here. In the 60s, 70s, 80s, people kissed a lot. It was OK - it meant you really liked that person at that particular time. It didn't mean you were a lousy bastard or a tart or an abuser or an excuser or someone who didn't love their other half. It meant affection, a connection, joy, celebration.

I'm genuinely sad that so many young people immediately scream abuse at what is often just momentary and sincere affection.

And yes, I know what gaslighting is, ditto cheating. Yes, people get hurt - it's a fact of life and it's horrible and to be avoided wherever possible. But as I said in my initial post, none of us - NOT ONE OF US - is perfect.

and I try to keep this in mind - I can't remember where I saw or heard it, but: "No matter how awful or terrible someone is behaving, at that particular moment in time they are being the best THAT THEY KNOW HOW TO BE."

So maybe all of us who are so superior and better behaved should show a little charity, compassion and understanding - and less judgment.

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Orlandointhewilderness · 10/10/2018 21:43

Well I'm pleased my expected standards of behaviour seem to be far far above that. As are my DPs.

in the 60s, 70s, 80s, people kissed a lot. It was OK - it meant you really liked that person at that particular time. It didn't mean you were a lousy bastard or a tart or an abuser or an excuser or someone who didn't love their other half. It meant affection, a connection, joy, celebration.

Seriously!?! Ok - if my DP kisses another woman (and I've seen the video - we aren't talking a quick peck here) thats fine as it only means affection and a celebration.

Fuck that shit.

SillySallySingsSongs · 10/10/2018 21:48

In the 60s, 70s, 80s, people kissed a lot. It was OK

No kissing like they were in that video was not ok.

I'm genuinely sad that so many young people immediately scream abuse at what is often just momentary and sincere affection.

I'm not 'young'. It isn't the kiss which is being seen as abuse.

That wasn't a momentary kiss.

ShirleyPhallus · 10/10/2018 21:50

Good point OP. I hear there’s a “one post per opinion” limit on threads. Which at best makes threads 4 or 5 posts long.

Oh no, hang on.... Hmm

Harleypuppy · 10/10/2018 21:52

It's the fact he was abusive. And we live in a free country and if I want to read sleb shit and read discussions about it I can. Why don't you just hide the threads you don't agree with. But don't tell me what I can discuss/obsess over. Some people like it.

MaisyPops · 10/10/2018 21:53

I'm not a strictly fan but I really fail to see how it can be front page news '2 people on strictly snog'. ( even I know there's an affair most years)

Fine they got drunk and kissed. It was stupid. One relationship is over and he's had essays about how crap he is as a boyfriend from his ex all over social media.

People at work have drunken kisses. It's a bit shit but it's life. I don't see why there's all this moral outcry and pearl clutching coming from. It's not like anyone's going to think "well I was doing just fine in my relationship but now I've heard some geezer on the telly smooched a co-worker and that's it... I'm all up for a mistress".

SillySallySingsSongs · 10/10/2018 21:55

@MaisyPops Its not just about the kiss it's the alleged abuse too.

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