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Why doe England Netball ask 10 year old girls their sexual preference?

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RhymesWithOrange · 23/09/2018 10:34

Picture of registration form for DD's netball club. How bloody weird.

It's definitely a junior form as later on it asks for parent/guardian details.

Why doe England Netball ask 10 year old girls their sexual preference?
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gylly · 23/09/2018 10:35

That's very inappropriate. I would complain to the official body.

JungMum · 23/09/2018 10:35

omg, that's ridiculous. It's netball for ten year olds.

Chosenone · 23/09/2018 10:35

I was confused by this also!?! I put prefer not to say. DD 11 was annoyed as she thought they'd think she is gay but she says she's straight. I said it didn't matter and wasn't relevant anyway.

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YeOldeTrout · 23/09/2018 10:36

They get post addressed to Mr. or Miss. What title if neither?

YeOldeTrout · 23/09/2018 10:37

oops, sorry misunderstood (blame the sport on telly).
But is it a form that goes out to older kids, too? They have monitoring obligations under law, I suspect, or best practice guidelines.

Isn't it one of those non-obligatory Qs, so they can ignore?

NothingOnTellyAgain · 23/09/2018 10:41

Sexual preference with no "tick boxes" is also a bizarrely open question.

I assume they want the girls to write

Boys
Girls
Both
?

Or
Straight
Gay
Pan
Bi
Lesbian
Asexual
Demisexual
Greysexual
Etc
???

Or
In the bath with jelly
That bloke off criminal minds
Thursday nights only
Tentacle porn
Etc

What do they want to know? It is not clear.

And why are they asking 10yo many of whom will not have even been through puberty?

Weird and a bit iffy imo

Mishappening · 23/09/2018 10:42

Gawd-a-mighty - the world has gone mad.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 23/09/2018 10:45

Does it ask for their sex anywhere?

I'm wondering if it's an incredibly clumsy wording of "what gender do you identify with"

NothingOnTellyAgain · 23/09/2018 11:03

I would hope not given it's an entirely different question Confused

They need to know sex, gender is irrelevant.
Obviously.

However in real life they have decided they put the genders together rather than the sexes, and share accomodation, changing, showers etc on the basis of internal feelings not dicky / cunty.

Was amazed to find out girls are not allowed to wear knickers for gymnastics so they will have to be getting their pants off.

There was another thread.

That combined with asking "sexual preferences" of 10yo girls makes it sound like it's being run by perves TBH

I'm sure it isn't but, well.

Sexual prefernces indeed.

Sexual orientation means straigt gay etc

Sexual preferences means > spanking, missionary, feathery strokery, group sex, etc etc

So if they are trying to ask for sexual orientation or gender they have fucked up royally.

And the answer for a 10yo needs to be "Don't Know" not "Prefer not to say" >> the assumption that all 10yo will have and know their "sexual preferences" is ludicrous.

I've gone from whatever to what the fuck now.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 23/09/2018 11:06

Mind you one dictionary says it's the same as orientation.
Not convinced.

Another definition says partner AND what you like to do.
You also get a quiz about "what do you like to in bed"

If someone said to you what are your sexual preferences you'd take it to mean what do you like to do in bed TBH.

Terrible wording and shouldn't be an open question.

Open questions are useless for stat collecting anyone.

Someone wholyl incompetent has made this form.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 23/09/2018 11:13

It's not appropriate or relevant for any form regardless of age.It's like what they ask about Ethnicity Religion extra. WTF does that have to do with anything.. A 10 year old wouldn't know their sexual preference anyway.
Highly inappropriate I'd definable complain.

RhymesWithOrange · 23/09/2018 11:23

It's not a question about whether they are boys or girls. That covered later in the form under "gender"🙄

It's literally a question about who they like having sex with.

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MorningsEleven · 23/09/2018 11:25

What has sexuality got to to with playing netball? That's a bloody odd question. I'd be tempted to write "Furry" and turn up in a dog costume.

RhymesWithOrange · 23/09/2018 12:30

I have worked for Sport England. I know clubs and NGBs ask them to monitor diversity information to ensure reach and inclusion but nowhere does SE ask clubs to find out the sexual preferences of children.

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 23/09/2018 12:31

" I'd be tempted to write "Furry" and turn up in a dog costume."

Prescient.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 23/09/2018 12:32

Email them and ask why they have included this question and what information they hope to gain from it and what they intend to do with that information.

If you say interested from a data protection perspective that should make them take it seriously and have to answer.

SoupDragon · 23/09/2018 12:36

They have monitoring obligations under law

I have never filled a form in that asks what my sexual preference is.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 23/09/2018 12:41

Also if it's monitoring obligations
For stats
Then they need to give OPTIONS, free text is useless for monitoring as loads of people write different things.
That's why there are always checkboxes, sometimes loads of them, with an "other" bit at the end that they are hoping not too many poeple will fill out and if they do they will redesign it next time.

iggleypiggly · 23/09/2018 12:47

Is that the England netball affiliation form? If so it says clearly that if under 18 you do not need to complete this box.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 23/09/2018 12:50

It's still a free text box for what should be a tickbox question

It's still a bizarre question > do they mean sexual orientation? Or "Do you prefer to go on top?"

Both of these points lead to conclusion that form was designed by someone who had no fuckign idea what they were doing.

RhymesWithOrange · 23/09/2018 12:51

@iggleypiggly it really isn't that clear. And frankly it's lazy to include this on the form. It's completely inappropriate. It's against DP guidelines.

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Urbanbeetler · 23/09/2018 12:55

You would hope every 10 year old’s sexual preferences are none yet. Blimey.

iggleypiggly · 23/09/2018 12:55

I never fill it in as it says if under 18 it’s not needed. If it’s against guidelines then you should most certainly raise it.

specialsubject · 23/09/2018 12:56

it's a ball chucking team, not (I hope!) an invitation to join an orgy club.

just write MYOB and complain bitterly.

it isn't relevant for the adult game either which is still a ball chucking team not an orgy club. I would also ignore the question as an adult.

ManicSunday · 23/09/2018 13:42

I would hope they've just copied it off the adult form, without thinking. I hate the new terminology of 'sexual preference' - The protected characteristic that they are monitoring for (in adults) is sexual orientation (ie hetero, homo or bisexual) not people's sexual preferences.

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