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PLEASE HELP!! My pugs won’t stop seeing in the house !!

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Poppymailaw · 03/09/2018 15:05

I have 2 pugs (dolly & teddy) they are both rescues and got them in February!

They are lovely dogs apart from them weeping in the house.. my boyfriend literally hates them because all they do is pee and poo when we leave the room.

We leave them out their cage to have a run about with the back door OPEN so they can do our for weeks and poops whenever they need to. We come back in and there is wee and poo everywhere even tho the back foot is still wide open. I honestly don’t understand it and now they are having to stay in thier cage all day. We’ve tried EVERYTHING! ans nothing works.

I honestly believe they wee ans poo in the house out of spite and it is make me so angry now. Like they back door is open there’s no reason for them not to go out side.

Someone please help and tell me what to do! Ans why they do it! Because if they don’t stop soon they will be going back to the reigning centre.

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Livinglavidal0ca · 03/09/2018 15:08

I don't even have a dog and the first thing I'm about to ask you is, have you trained them?

PristineCondition · 03/09/2018 15:09

What methods have you already tried?

CrispbuttyNo1 · 03/09/2018 15:10

You shouldn’t have dogs . You clearly haven’t a clue.

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CrispbuttyNo1 · 03/09/2018 15:11

It sounds to me like they would be happier at the rescue centre.

Rarfy · 03/09/2018 15:13

I have a dog who does the same. He is completely house trained. Goes to the door when he needs to be out but the minute he is left alone 5mins he marks his spot. It is an anxiety thing.

Our vet has recommended adaptil plug ins and a behavviourist.

3girlmama · 03/09/2018 15:20

Were they toilet trained at their previous place? Or has this only started since rehoming them?
I have 4 pugs
1 is rescue
She used to wee in the house. Mainly the lounge as we think she liked the long pile carpet
The vet said that she will still be able to smell her wee even once we've cleaned it up so she thinks that the place to go still
We tried bicarbonate of soda and water with carpet shampoo which helped. We then refloored the downstairs with wood floor (not because of her we were going to anyway) and it stopped !
Could be she had settled in by then and the floor has nothing to do with it

Let your pugs out for a wee etc and praise and give a treat when they do their business out there. If they do it in the house, firm 'no!' (Not shouting just firm voice) and no fuss. Clean it up and no eye contact.

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Poppymailaw · 03/09/2018 15:24

Everyone who is being rude has no idea what we go through with these dogs. I have owned a dogue de Bordeaux and a Labrador Before these two one was from a small rescue centre ans one was a puppy. I trained both these dogs the same way I’m trying with these ans it’s not working.

But yes I’ve tried everything from clicker training to plug in treatments, sprays.. and even been to the vets about it. They do wee and poo outside but only when I go out with them! Ans I reward Them when they do this but then they come in and do it inside aswell. I really don’t understand why people are being rude when I do everything for these dogs and acctully gave them a chance because they have been together since they were 8 weeks and we’re going to be speperates because no one wanted them both me I took them on and I’ve crate trained them taught Them to sit, lay down and paw, taught them to walk on the lead which they had never done and gone the hell ans back for them.

They were 3 when I rescued them so not puppies and I don’t know what I’m doing wrong.

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Poppymailaw · 03/09/2018 15:26

@3girlmama we were told they were house trained but tbh the lady who has them before didn’t even take them on walks... and we recently moved house hoping they wouldn’t do it in our new house but they still are... at first they were good and I was so happy thing I’ve finally don’t it but then they started weeing again!

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Chugalug · 03/09/2018 15:27

Hi op...it sounds stressful x.
I've a half pug ..firstly I'd say they need a lot of company ,most dogs don't like being left alone.so try to spend plenty of time with them.they are nervous and you haven't had them long,and god knows what they went though before you rescued them....I'd go back to basics with them...i don't agree with cages ,I never used one with either of my dogs.i bought a huge playpen that opened out flat ,I attached to the half of my kitchen with access to the garden.so my dogs had access outside whenever I was home( mostly) ,and they had a huge area of their own ,that was wipe clean,..I used puppy pads ,by putting poo on them so they knew to use them.or I soaked a corner in wee to put the scent on it...and we had our dogs in their own area for a long while ,if I was sat somewhere out of their area they joined me....but it contained any mess in the cordoned off area...the size was approx half of a medium size kitchen ,with a medium garden.ive since had a pet flap installed so she can get out to wee at night....would that be possible?

Rarfy · 03/09/2018 15:27

Interesting about the flooring. We are moving soon and goimg for luxury vinyl or laminate in the hopes it helps.

Abra1de · 03/09/2018 15:27

How old are they?

My latest terrier was unreliable until about 9 months despite a lot of training. Then she got it and has been very good.

Sometimes smaller dogs find it harder and if you have two they will reinforce each other’s bad habits.

Evenstar · 03/09/2018 15:28

I think you might get better advice on Facebook from specific pug groups, my girl came to me at 3 and has been great, but it is a really common issue with pugs. Try Pug Lovers UK and Pugfest x

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Poppymailaw · 03/09/2018 15:31

They are 3 years old and yes just moved house they stay in the kitchen diner which is tiles and wooden floor! They weed in the old house and now continuing to do it here... I work from home so I’m always with them but if I go to the toilet or to have a shower ect they will pee and poo... we have a cat flap which one of them is supposed to be trained to use... but she doesn’t use it.. she won’t even go outside unless I go with her

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Chugalug · 03/09/2018 15:32

My friend had 2 staffies and for 13 years she had constant accidents in the home...or so she thought ....she had never had them castrated so they were each weeing on top of the others wee...she never used a special wee spray..Tesco do one for £1.50... the vet said when one died that bing castrated might of helped the problem.as they were both marking their territory

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Poppymailaw · 03/09/2018 15:34

They are both castrated but dolly my girl was used for breeding previously so she’s only recently been done!

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Rustyigloo · 03/09/2018 15:39

So have you taken it right back to basics? Take them out every 15 mins and give them over the top praising/treats when they do a wee/poo? This can then be stretched out to 30 mins etc when they get the hang of it.
How often are they fed? This can affect how often they need to go too.

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Poppymailaw · 03/09/2018 15:42

Ah okay I will try that! I leave the black door open most of the day but they won't go out unless I do so I usually go it every 30 mins or so but honestly I'd stand out there all day if that's what it take at this rate!! And they get fed and 8am and again at 6pm

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MrsRubyMonday · 03/09/2018 15:43

Are you taking them out on a regular basis for toilet breaks? I would start from the beginning as you would with a puppy, outside for toilet as soon as they wake up, after being fed, after waking from naps, after any extended period of play, any time you see them sniffing or circling or heading off in a determined fashion (that I need a wee walk is a big clue). I would also be taking them out before leaving them alone for any period of time, and then crating when alone. Make sure the crate is completely full of bed/towels etc, so there are no hard areas they could confuse with a toilet patch. Praise every time they go outside, with treats. Teach them to go to the toilet on command by waiting until they are mid-wee or poo outside then giving the command, then praising super enthusiasticly. Don't punish accidents, just clean up and move on. I would also not pick up in the garden for a few days if you can manage leaving it, to reinforce that that is the toilet place. They aren't doing it to be spiteful. They don't understand or haven't been trained well enough yet, they've been moved several times between being rescued and living with you and moving house, it's a lot to expect from them. I know it's frustrating when you were told they were trained, but this is quite common for rescues who want to get the dogs homed.

You should probably also buy an enzyme cleaner, we get the pets at home one. Treat every floor they have wee'd on, every blanket and bed. If they can smell the pee, even if you can't, they will go again. You may need to treat the floor several times as the wee soaks down beneath through the grout and you have to get the cleaner down there too.

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Poppymailaw · 03/09/2018 15:52

Yes to take them out as much as possible and they do have a big crate which thankfully they don't pee in what's so ever!!!! I will get some of that to do the floors and hopefully that should help! I think they didn't quite have the life we were told before but hopefully we can sort somthing out! I love them to pieces and would do anything for them! I've never hit or shouted at them for toilwting I'm the house as I know that doesn't work but just makes them more anxious, they are happy go lucky dogs and they my total babies

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RooMama · 03/09/2018 15:53

Yes per other posters I think you need to approach it like they are puppies and take them out every half an hour. Do the praising and the treating and me as consistent as you possibly can be.

I've got a 7 month old puppy and it took a lot longer than I would have liked, but we are finally cracking it now, and thankfully she's started to take herself outside by herself now or clearly ask me to take her out which is excellent. You can't just leave the door open and assume they'll just get it one day.

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Poppymailaw · 03/09/2018 15:54

Our male dog(teddy) is defiantly better and will only wee or pop when we go out for the day but the femal will do it's regardless like she sometimes goes out side and then comes back in just to wee it's so frustrating!

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Rustyigloo · 03/09/2018 17:21

I hear your frustration but you'll get there. Rather than having the door open all the time make it a deliberate "let's go to the toilet" time.
Also agree to the other poster saying leave a few poos in the garden, they will soon recognise it as they're toileting area.
Good luck!

3girlmama · 03/09/2018 19:47

A pp mentioned company- yes, pugs can get depressed really easily. However you've got 2 to give company to each other so they should be less susceptible. But dog affection isn't the same as human affection, so maybe they just really don't like when you go out.
My crew won't settle if I go out. They sit down in their room in their crates (open to come and go as they please al day and shut at night) and wander around sporadically until I get home. Dh says they don't whine etc but they won't sit with him. I wonder if they've just made a really strong bond with you and are protesting? X

Katinkka · 03/09/2018 19:59

they are not doing it to spite you. You need to teach them what to do. Leaving door open isn’t enough.

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Poppymailaw · 03/09/2018 20:23

I work from home so I'm with them all day which is good but they don't come in the lounge currently because of white carpet! So one they are trained fully and I can't trust them they can have the run of the house! I've been doing what you everyone's said and coming out with them every 15 minuets and only had one wee so far which is an improvement compared the the 15 I usually have when I come and let them out every 30 min or so!

Really proud of them so far! Ans hopefully they will continue! Been over prazing when they wee outside! And then prazing when I come to let them out and there is nothing in the house!

I do usually spend about 2-3 hours playing with them a day and it makes me happier playing with them when I know they are being good so overall I'm happy so far and it's only been a few hours!!! Fingers crossed they carry on and I can slowly increase the time I come and let them out...

I've also not been leaving the black door open so that I'm more in control because that was one of the problems with dolly.. so I come out and say go wees now and she acctully doing it! Yay Grin

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