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“Needs washed” and similar... regional?

261 replies

Magpiefeather · 31/08/2018 19:58

I only know one person IRL who uses this turn of phrase, for example

Needs washed
Needs cut
Needs tidied

They are from the New Forest...

Have seen this a lot on MN and I just wondered is it a regional thing?

Before I knew this New Forest Friend and read Mumsnet I had never heard this before. I would say

Needs TO BE washed
Or needs washing

Anyone shed any light?

OP posts:
PhilomenaButterfly · 01/09/2018 08:15

Yes, we call it paddling here. Not sure what else you'd call it.

Cockapoomummy · 01/09/2018 08:16

And the woman will ask

Do you want a wee bag with that?

Do you need a wee hand with that?

Put your wee card in the machine.

Arkengarthdale · 01/09/2018 08:20

Can't go to the seaside without having a paddle, it's against the law Grin

PhilomenaButterfly · 01/09/2018 08:22

Is that Ireland Cockapoo? Everything seems to be wee there, not everything's wee in Scotland. They have some normal sized things. 😉

LuckyDiamond · 01/09/2018 08:22

DH has learned to live with me saying “do you want to (insert any job) put the kettle on..” instead of “can you please put the kettle on ...”.

I’m not asking when I say “do you want to...” Grin

Redyoyo · 01/09/2018 08:22

I've just realised how Scottish i am and why no one understands me down south, as i use pretty much all of these Scottishisms.
Does anyone else say red up for tidy up, as in go and red up your bedroom, its a mess.
Both me and dh were brought up in towns 6 miles apart and the first time i asked him to red up the kitchen he was like what???

kikisparks · 01/09/2018 08:24

@PhilomenaButterfly thanks, where are you from? I’m wondering if it’s regional from elsewhere that my parents have somehow picked up. I always mean to ask others here and forget until the next time I say it to DH and he’s confused again!

kikisparks · 01/09/2018 08:24

@Redyoyo no I’ve never heard of red up and I’m Scottish.

AnElderlyLadyOfMediumHeight · 01/09/2018 08:26

I'm a fan of Scottish expressions too - I like 'where do you stay?' (as an aside, my northern English grandparents used to say 'stop' for 'stay') and I love 'outwith' and often wish I could use it when writing for work, but I have to be internationally understandable, so I can't Sad I adore 'messages' too (thought that was Irish, though?).

I would say 'needs washing' etc., but I don't think it's actually superior, grammatically, to saying 'needs washed', which is actually technically an ellipsis of the correct form ('needs to be washed').

AnElderlyLadyOfMediumHeight · 01/09/2018 08:28

Ah, see someone said 'messages' is Irish. Must RTfullFT in future (and while we're on pedantry, the 'F' in RTFT doesn't stand for 'full').

Whyohsky · 01/09/2018 08:30

Only ever seen it on here.

PhilomenaButterfly · 01/09/2018 08:32

Brought up in Hertfordshire by a Northern Irish DGM and a Suffolk DGF kiki! But I've honestly never met anyone who didn't call it paddling.

AnarchyKitty · 01/09/2018 08:34

Chap the door
Clap the cat/dog
Go up the road
Needs washed
Bye now
Sit nice
See you at the back of four

Since living in Scotland I've definitely picked these up. It drives my English teacher friend mad Grin

PatchworkGirl · 01/09/2018 08:35

I've noticed this a lot online recently too - I'd never heard it before. It was driving me crazy so I'm glad it regional not just incorrect!

PhilomenaButterfly · 01/09/2018 08:38

DS1 has cystic fibrosis and was born in Scotland. The hospital staff used to refer to the thumping of his chest that we had to do for his physio as clapping. Hmm That makes it sound much gentler than it really is! Do they call it stroking in England?

hmmwhatatodo · 01/09/2018 08:38

The only ones I can’t bear are “what was you doing?” (Nothing) “Yes you was, I saw you.” and “I’m going Manchester today.... he went Stratford today.”

TulipsInAJug · 01/09/2018 08:41

I'm in NI. We say red up and paddling.

wafflyversatile · 01/09/2018 08:43

Im Scottish and say this. It is perfectly clear what it means so don't see a problem.

That said draw instead of drawer makes me feel shouty.

AnElderlyLadyOfMediumHeight · 01/09/2018 08:53

'red up' presumably comes from 'ready up', as in make ready (for visitors, for instance)?

I'm also puzzled as to what on earth you would call it apart from 'paddling'!

ThatsNotEvenAWord · 01/09/2018 08:54

I remember when I started university I was ‘exposed’ to more regional speech.

For example I had a friend coming to visit and my room mate asked ‘is she stopping?’ Stopping what?! I’d never heard that to mean ‘staying over’. See also ‘give it me’.

I love the Yorkshire accent and phrases. My friend says ‘ah he does right does lad’ it’s like a hug in a sentence.

ThatsNotEvenAWord · 01/09/2018 08:55

Oh and I’m originally from London and we call it paddling!

topcat2014 · 01/09/2018 08:56

Where's it to (wales) compared to where's it from..

WilburIsSomePig · 01/09/2018 08:57

Scottish. I say it though since living in England I've altered slightly so that people don't take the piss! Grin

lottiegarbanzo · 01/09/2018 09:01

The meaning is clear but the first (and second) time I heard it, from people who were otherwise articulate in a 'standard English grammar with a Scottish accent' way, I was really thrown. It is quite jarring to the 'standard English' ear.

Poppins2016 · 01/09/2018 09:03

Dh infuriates me by leaving out the "to be" from sentences like this. It isn't proper English in my view. He's from Sussex.

I'm from Sussex and agree with you, leaving out 'to be' isn't proper English! I don't actually know anyone from Sussex who doesn't say 'to be'... Your DH seems to be in a minority.

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