“Needs washed” and similar... regional?

[Magpiefeather]

I only know one person IRL who uses this turn of phrase, for example

Needs washed
Needs cut
Needs tidied

They are from the New Forest...

Have seen this a lot on MN and I just wondered is it a regional thing?

Before I knew this New Forest Friend and read Mumsnet I had never heard this before. I would say

Needs TO BE washed
Or needs washing

Anyone shed any light?

@Redyoyo I'm sure red up is used locally for something that is a mess."the kitchen is a right red up"

Chute for slide is another scottish one.

Haven't rtft. But what about while meaning until e.g I won't be home while 6. My ex said he'd never heard it in this way. To him it meant during or at the same time as such as reading a magazine while waiting to be called in to the dentist or something. Confusingly it also means that to me. Context is everything.

My older relatives would talk about 'sailing' in the context of being out and about in the car. 'We were out for a sail'. I don't hear it very much any more but it was very common when I was younger.

“Glory hole for messy cupboard under the stairs.”

um, no, that’s something much ruder to me...

AnElderlyLadyOfMediumHeight yes keek means look, instead of peekaboo in Scotland we would say keek.

That is interesting how similar they are

'keek in the windae' meaning look in the window? That's really interesting - 'kieken' is Berlin dialect for 'look'
Also: Kirche (German for church) Kirk (Scots for church)

Ah yes! Of course.
And thanks treaclesoda for the guddies confirmation.
Really enjoying this discussion :)

I love this thread. I'm Scottish and despite now living in England half my life I'm still learning things I say are considered weird. I had no idea 'outwith' wasn't in normal usage! I say it all the time!

Some of my favourites that I've had weird looks for are:
'squint' for when something isn't straight like hanging a picture on the wall
'Going through' to somewhere. E.g. I would 'go through' to glasgow from edinburgh. English people seem to think this is weird.

@ItWasntMelt. my toddler told me off for saying 'chute' 😂

The Norfolk saying 'on the huh' (eg a picture isn't straight or the ground is sloping) is lovely and has entered our families standard sayings. Along with 'Geet', NE saying meaning 'very' as in 'geet hot'. And 'plook', Scottish for 'pimple'.
Plook is gorgeously onomatopoeic

Ally bally, Ally bally bee, Sitting on her mother's knee...

Yes, I had no idea that was Scottish until looking it up just now. Now I'm not sure why it was sung to me, so that I regard it as a standard nursery song (and had wondered why it didn't seem to be in common circulation any more, in my part of England). It is very soothing.

My favourite Scottish expression, learnt on here and that I've adopted in my head, to deploy silently when needed, is get tae fuck!

@kaytee87 paddling is normal in Norfolk. Lived here for 30+ years and don't know anybody who doesn't call it paddling and we have a large coastline so it's not like it doesn't crop up.

Oh you cannae shove yer granny aff a bus
No you cannae shove yer granny aff a bus
No you cannae shove yer granny
Fer she's yer mammy's mammy
You cannae shove yer granny aff a bus

Another one that people seem to say now is 'come with' as in 'Are you going to town? Can I come with? ' It's come with YOU!'. Where did all this suddenly come from - I can't help thinking it's lazy kind of speech, as words are missed out?

I wondered if it was Germanic - my German ex used to say, "are you coming with?" when in German, he'd say, "kommst du mit?" Which is literally "come you with?" but mitkommen, meaning to come with (somebody) is a perfectly normal German verb. (Well, normal once you've got your head round separable verbs, which is a challenge for some learners.)

Anyone else wearing their baffies ?

I’ll bring the tome down by asking the linguists here why the Scots and English seemed to develop parallel neologisms for ‘juvenile delinquent’ seemingly simultaneously around the turn of the century ie Ned and chav

I don't think that 'naggy' was being used in the simple sense of 'one who nags' though Francis though I could be wrong. They would use it about their children, eg 'Tom is being naggy today'. People don't normally say that children 'nag' do they? I had a vague understanding that it seemed to be being used with a different meaning, which was regional. That's why I thought maybe it meant something close to 'mardy'.

I know someone from Pennsylvania and the use redd up too.

Bahoochie, now a game with characters called eejits...

www.amazon.co.uk/BAHOOCHIE-an-eejits-Card-Game/dp/B06XFGJT58/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Bahoochie&tag=mumsnetforum-21&ie=UTF8&qid=1535848767&sr=8-1

All of these are Lancashire.

Mind you shut the door
Me dad's a waster
That corned beef hash needs eating
Hair needs a wash

Etc etc

Nag = pestering.

Or even better, mithering

I understand that meaning, but do you come from Shropshire or North Wales? Where I think maybe it has a different meaning?

delphguelf, to me all those phrases are standard English. I come from the south east.

yes, 'needs a wash' is standard to me too. (I'll take this opportunity to say again that there is nothing 'wrong' about 'needs washed', as some posters are saying. There's quite a tendency on MN to declare dialectal variations that appear not to obey standard grammar rules (which 'needs washing' doesn't either) as 'wrong'. Britain has had a very long class-ridden culture of a particular variant of English being defined as the superior variant and the standard. You also see quite a lot on here of regional (and class) variations in speech being defined as 'not speaking properly'. It's a damaging attitude and I wish itd stop. Rant over).