Traditional job salaries

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I've been thinking today, due to the talk of the living wage, how in the past is has been fairly common for families with parents working very normal jobs to be able to buy what we consider now unobtainable houses for a lot of young people.

Being the very nosy person I am, I decided to look up how much these traditional professions earn but I can't say I believe it.

Mumsnet is skewed of course on the 'what do you earn?' threads so I would be very interested if anyone knew the average salary of say a postman, or a bin man etc. No other reason than being nosy.

A Sky/Virgin/Openreach engineer’s basic salary is about £23-25k, but with opportunity to earn performance related bonus, which could vary it quite a lot.

Staff nurse here I’m middle band 5 on 26k per annum basic (northwest England).
Goes up slightly with unsocial hours add ons. Decent pension and maternity scheme.
However very unsocial hours weekends, nights and bank holidays.
Not to mention severe stress and staff shortages but a satisfying and interesting job on the whole.

Ambulance driver full time £21k. 10 years experience and full nursing qualification but that isn't required for the job.

Tube drivers in on 55k now. Still the lowest paid train drivers though. Cross rail for example was advertised at almost 60k once training is complete. This meant that other train operating companies gave their staff a massive pay rise to stop them leaving to join cross rail. Except tfl.

In Scotland standard teachers are on about £36k after they’ve been teaching for 7 years (including their probationary year). Chartered teachers can earn up to £44ish and PTs/SLT will be on more.

My husband fancied train driving. Hes in computing but thought hed enjoy it and I think he would. I think the jobs are rarely advertised though and tend to be homegrown rather than external vacancies.

The other one he fancied was air traffic control but he couldnt afford to stop work tok do the training/move us all.

Private sector don't tend to have pay scales at all. Mostly below inflation rises. Less benefits including pensions etc. If my salary had kept place with inflation over last ten years I'd be on £5k more than I am. And that's without factoring in increased pension contributions to try to keep my pension at the same rate it was.

I was watching a tv programme the other day about parking and wondered what traffic wardens earn as it's a pretty rubbish jobs in terms of the amount of abuse they seem to get - £18k seemed to be the figure I could find, which doesn't seem much.

I am a Investment Analyst and earn £29k FT/35 hours.

Personal Assistant role here 24k per year (if I worked full time) been wirh the same boss for 10 years and started off as receptionist 10 years ago on 14k full time.

Where did I mention what the average teacher got paid? I said the average pay in the particular inner London school I was familiar with was 48k & clearly these teachers had experience & the additional payments were more like 3k-5k

www.nasuwt.org.uk/uploads/assets/uploaded/48e500c4-2404-4ee5-8b8588916a973a50.pdf

That is incredible! Most academies employ a lot of nqts to get cheap staff or even cover supervisors and unqualifieds. Lots of academies here wont let you progress beyond main pay scale so the most you can get for experience is 32.

I’m a police officer earning 30k P/T 32hrs a week... however I only get about £1600 pcm because of pension contributions.

Plenty of teachers on this thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3342026-To-ask-what-jobs-you-do-that-earn-40k-50k-plus

no amount would be enough to be a traffic walden, surely!

Tube drivers are not the lowest paid train drivers if they're on 55k. Not by some margin.

My husband is a senior fraud investigator for a government quango. He earns a basic wage of £17,500 p.a. No pay rise in 10 years, 1% this year. It's a joke.

One of my friends (graduate physicist) went on the bins as he needed money to pay off his student loans (many years ago when they were new and you still had to) and it paid so much better than any of the new graduate jobs.
They would zip round so that they could get a second round and earn twice the rate, and he practically fiurnished his first home from other people's rubbish.
I've never thought they were particularly poorly paid..

Central London

I’m a PA; over £40k
dh is a postie doing an excessive amount of overtime; over £40k

When we go to remortgage and they look at just his basic it’s low £20’s I think.

Used to work in a school & average teacher was on 48k
No. The top of the upper pay scale for teachers is £38,633. It takes quite a while to achieve this. Starting salary outside London is £22,917.

The median is £27000 - £28000, I think.
If you include all teachers including very highly paid heads of academy chains and work out the mean average, yes it may be higher, but it's not representative.

I get the impression there is much more scope for a higher teaching salary in secondaries, not least as there are more opportunities for progression. Reading the thread linked to above it does seem there are lots of HoDs on 40k+. The primaries near me are putting very few people through threshold now and mine has scrapped TLRs altogether, so the majority of class teachers are stuck on 32k, including many with leadership responsibilities. Have been teaching 6 years and am rated outstanding. We have been told there is no more money for people to move into the upper payscale.

The London factor is huge

8 years ago - I was a junior analyst. Worked 9-5, low stress, fair bit of admin.

I was on £45k plus bonus of around £7k plus loads of benefits. I was 29. 8 years ago! This was in London. Equivalent job up north - I’d have been lucky to get £25k

I never said the teaching figures I quoted were reprensentative but they were the reality at my school although loads of posters on this thread are telling me I’m wrong.

Clearly the school had a higher % on the highest UPS/HOY level. The school is/was very successful & pay was dictated by need & performance.

There's a limit to HOY jobs, or HOD. Ie 1 to 7 or 8 staff.

It is a very unusual school. There just isnt the funding to pay above the payscales in this climate when many many schools are employing nqts or rqt to cut funds. Ours explicity says so!

We have been told there is no more money for people to move into the upper payscale

Snap-it’s the same at my school. Lots of people stuck on m3/4 as well as there’s no money. I’m sure I read in the news about pay rises recently in teaching but with no additional money allocated for them from the government, they just won’t happen.

Some current London & SE teacher job adverts

www.tes.com/jobs/vacancy/class-teacher-walthamstow-1097268
www.tes.com/jobs/vacancy/biology-science-teacher-newham-1104224

www.tes.com/jobs/vacancy/teacher-of-religious-studies-sidcup-kent-1099390

www.tes.com/jobs/vacancy/physics-teacher-london-1103194

It could be because at the school I worked at the workforce is older (30s+) & had a fair few years under their belts. Perhaps like most jobs for young people it’s harder to progress & wages stagnate.