Traditional job salaries

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I've been thinking today, due to the talk of the living wage, how in the past is has been fairly common for families with parents working very normal jobs to be able to buy what we consider now unobtainable houses for a lot of young people.

Being the very nosy person I am, I decided to look up how much these traditional professions earn but I can't say I believe it.

Mumsnet is skewed of course on the 'what do you earn?' threads so I would be very interested if anyone knew the average salary of say a postman, or a bin man etc. No other reason than being nosy.

TheHobbit, what would your basic be without shift allowances and overtime? £23 k is indeed low if you rely on those extras.

£23,900K is my basic but I'm just a shop shift worker. The shift bonuses etc are all extras, I usually work 35hrs

That doesn't include overtime :)

Ah, ok. That doesn't sound like to bad a wage then.

I'm an entry level manager for a finance team, on just over £20k. DP is a HR advisor/processer on £17k. Salaries are low in our area but so are house prices, we aim to buy in the next two years.

seem to recall from the bin dispute last year in Birmingham that the refuge collectors here are on something like £35k for a four day week.

Really?!

Used to work in a school & average teacher was on 48k, head of dep 55k, deputy head 70k & head 110k.

I am top of the UPS at £38000-the only people earning more than me are the head, deputy and one member of SMT. I’m stunned the average pay was £48000!

Holidayshopping So was I but it was a big academy secondary in London, it was comprised of basic plus a TRLa thingy, can’t remember the terminology.

I work in sales and prior to working part time I made £29k a year, I now work Mon - Thurs (not major shopping days) and OTE for new hours and days is 21k.
It's commision based, so you get what you put in and banks don't really favour that style of work so quite difficult to get a mortgage.

Admin varies loads...my last job was legal admin in London on 18.5k ft, DH does admin in London for 33.5k.
What's called admin is also very broad...my job was more clerical/secretary ish and dh job is more logistics and hr.

I'm a big standard supermarket worker at my annual is basic £23K I do get extra due to shift bonuses/double time/overtime and have flexibility to work when I want.

See, no offence to any supermarket shift workers out there, but this seems wrong to me, when childcare workers are paid so little - about £15K / £17K for 40 hour weeks and no bonuses / overtime, etc., but a huge responsibility Link

SellFridges is right Links The binmen didn't get any sympathy from anyone I know when striking last year.

What is so odd, is the discrepancies in various pay and rewards for different careers and jobs. Once the discrepancy has built up, it is difficult to know how to sort it all out.
You'd expect jobs that few people can do would attract more money, as should jobs people don't want to do (wading through sewers on a regular basis anyone?), but if you looked at all jobs in the UK and compared who gets paid what, for what jobs, it is bizarre the differences that seem unexplained.

I too am always surprised by teacher salaries on mn threads. I'm senior management in an infant school and earn £32k at the top of main scale, where I will likely now stay. The majority of my classroom teacher colleagues earn less (including a poor unqualified teacher, still doing the same workload as us all, on I think £19k!), on aversge around £26k. There are not the opportunities to go through threshold and earn above £32k anymore in most primaries round here and no extra leadership payments given (TLRs). East Mids.

I'm very surprised by the supermarket worker on 23k. They were interviewing a man who worked in a supermarket on the radio and he earnt 15k.

I'm a Bank Cashier £17K FTE

£8.50p/h for a pharmacy dispenser outside of London.

PAs and front of house staff at my city firm are paid really well. £40k for the PAs and around 28 for foh / reception.

However the more services are digitised / outsourced (digital dictation/ directors can cope with their own diaries etc electronically) we have made so many redundant so it's not something I would recommend getting in to now as there will be less and less jobs in the future.

I'm a specialist bookkeeper in a northern city. I get £22.5k fte now and I can't imagine I'd get more elsewhere. I've got an interview in the civil service next week with starting sal of just under £24k I think but I'd be on a pay scale then and maybe promotion one day so it will be better for me eventually (fingers crossed)

Don't be fooled by civil service pay scales. In many departments they have got rid of increments so you don't progress up the scale at all. Ask them, if they offer you the job, and negotiate up from the bottom of the scale before you start.

Shoesoff1. The average teacher doesn't earn anything near the £48k you mentioned. An experienced classroom teacher who is on the upper pay scale ( ie has some whole school responsibly) would be around £35k.

And even most TLR payments aren't huge for teachers: £1500-2500 unless you're a head of year of department

I still find it very difficult to believe the average teacher salary was £48,000. That’s way above the top of UPS. Only 3 of our teachers have even been allowed through the threshold!

I work in admin in a university and earn 21k.

Yep teaching caps at about 32 for most out of london teachers. Im not going back to teaching and happy to retrain so lurking for ideas...

PA at my work earns £38k. Small architects and design firm in London.

I'm an EA (posh PA) at Board level in London for a Wealth Management company and on £66k + bonus. I've been Board level for 15 years though and PA'd for a few 'well known and demanding' people.

Used to work in a school & average teacher was on 48k, head of dep 55k,

Even in an Inner London school, I find this hard to believe. I've been teaching 30 years and I earn nowhere near that, and my head of department (core subject, large dept) definitely doesn't earn 55k!