Dirty Looks on public transport

[thirdeyemagic]

Hello,
I travel a lot and tend to use a baby carrier with my little 9 month year old daughter.
It's so fun exploring with her (I am 22 and haven't slowed down with the travelling).

The only issue is that my child tends to chat a lot and sing on trains/buses.
That's not the issue. She looks so happy.
The issue is the immature fellow passengers that turn around and blatantly give us dirty looks.

She never cries or sleeps. Really energetic so I can't exactly cover her mouth and restrain her??

I almost started a fight with one man that kept turning around today.

What do other mums do?

PS
I understand children after a certain age should be taught manners. But still I hate societies attitude.

Babies are human beings too. With wants and desires. She's not going to sit there like a doll.
People act like my child is some annoying parasite. I hate it.

Not sure how to handle this.

What do you mean by you haven't slowed down with your travelling at 22? I genuinely have no idea what this comment means?

I even resorted to Peppa pig on my phone!

For shame! Why not just shove a Greggs pasty in her gob and be done with it!

And how do you know a man is 28?

You sound like a performance parent OP. Either that or your 9 month year old? DD isn't chatting or singing and is just a bit loud, like babies can be and people notice.

Oh, I understand "chatting and singing" in relation to 9 month year old babies OP... (I'm a mum and Gran, So I have a bit of experience)

It's usually loud noise. An annoying loud noise.

And excuse my irritation but I get a bit annoyed at the trivial right-on appropriation of Zen as an adjective. Especially when it pertains to babies

You're one of those irritating parents who talks to their child really loudly when there's no reason to (performance parenting I think it's called)

It'll be that. I'd have to move carriages They aren't giving your baby dirty looks, they're directed at you.

Try toning it down a bit and see if the dirty looks stop.

I've only just noticed that you 'almost started a fight' today yet you're on about other people's behaviour and manners ha

Is your sling tied right or is your baby dropping out? Maybe that's what they're giving you dog eye for.

If you resorted to Peppa Pig on your phone on public transport with the volume up, I can guarantee they were directing the dirty looks at you for that.

Peppa pig on the phone with audio on or off?

I think it's really hard to ignore a baby or child making their ordinary noise and public transport is grim for many of us, I'm glad some people can be zen but I can't. I'm famously tighter than a gnat's arse but since buying noise cancelling headphones I cope better with this kind of thing though.

I think people possibly are looking in irritation but they might be pooped after a twelve hour shift etc so cut them some slack.

Peppa pig on the phone with audio on or off?

I think it's really hard to ignore a baby or child making their ordinary noise and public transport is grim for many of us, I'm glad some people can be zen but I can't. I'm famously tighter than a gnat's arse but since buying noise cancelling headphones I cope better with this kind of thing though.

I think people possibly are looking in irritation but they might be pooped after a twelve hour shift etc so cut them some slack.

To you your little ones babbling and love of peppa pig (please tell me you don't have the volume up too loud!) is amazing to other passengers it probably a bit annoying however that's their problem and unless anyone says anything to you just ignore them.

Im a mum too.

Iv done the whole baby wearing on trains and buses etc , with happy children and with crying children.

It does not mean that i have to like other peoples children.

I get tired, often headachey tired on the way home from work on the bus - i am human and yes loud noises from children as much as i understand it - it still often jangles me .

I dont always want noise , and i dont want to always acknowledge other peoples babies/ toddlers.

Lj8893

I was introducing myself. The context is that me and my child travel a lot. Because I am still kind of young and got pregnant whilst I had plans to backpack.

So I was hoping similar mums would engage with me.
We all have different lifestyles and different approaches.

I don't really want (although I appreciate it!) advice from someone who prefers quiet days in and a 6 pm bed time for their child. It would be completely mismatched.

I was looking for selective mothering advice from similar mothers.

Or mothers with a similar child (loud and social) that have some wisdom.

I suspect they look round with fondness then mid turn remember they are English..

I think you are a rude brat OP.

Please grow up , learn some manners and return to mumsnet at that point .

My thoughts exactly Anyfucker

Slimthistime
Audio off ! Haha oh god then people would definitely have something to say!

OK yes I see what you mean!
I understand it but that's why noise cancelling headphones exist.
Or we can drive to our destinations where other people don't exist.. lol

When you have grown up you might learn that children can have quiet evenings with routine at 6pm and be social.

Good luck by the way settling your PFB into school if you dont do routine .

Nomudlotus
I doubt you give children dirty looks though!
If you are like me - then we get way more understanding of loud babies after having kids ourselves !
Even if it is annoying.

I am not lying when I say people give dirty looks. It was worse when I used a pram cause then you become the scum of the bus.

(Emotive language not literally)

And I don't really care if the person doesn't mean to give a dirty look and it was not even a big deal.

We are all grown ups capable of managing ourselves. Without glaring at children that don't know what they are doing is "inconvenient".

Nomudlotus

The two aren't mutually exclusive.
I was replying to someone's question.

I know that being social has nothing to do with that.
I was answering someone's question.

Are you travelling with commuters? I find at commuting times, buggies and shrieking or crying babies get dirty looks.
I've never noticed it at any other times. Just ignore it.

OP "Or we can drive to our destinations where other people don't exist.. lol"

Well I hope for the latter in retirement but I have to earn a living
Many of us don't have an option to drive to work

And I was lucky to afford bloody good noise cancelling headphones. Maybe when I die my money could go to a fund for them - for commuters who can't cope with baby noise either

To their mother a baby is wonderful. Their noises become 'chatting and singing', the constant stream of which is, to them, 'sociable'.

To other people it is noise. Loud noise, often unpleasantly shrill or squeaky - and worse when confined.

You find your dd adorable, that's great, you're supposed to. Other people don't - and that doesn't make them wrong and you right.

I say this as a mother who loves my own child - but find the majority of other people's children simply irritate the shit out of me.

And I know I'm not alone.