Wow - Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes divorcing!

[thequietone]

Well I never...

"Male homosexual actors care because they very rarely get cast in heterosexual roles - thus severely restricting their careers and their earning power"

but they're all apparently openly out within holywood society.. so they're out to the people DOING the castings???

MrsCampbellBlack you're thinking of Robin Gibb, not Robin Williams

Cherie - it's the $$$ that matters... if you're openly gay, punters won't go to see your movie/ buy the DVD etc. if you're cast in a straight romantic lead.

There is still a huge amount of intolerance in the world, and what others have said about gay actors not getting "big" roles, unless they are character roles (e.g. Sir Ian McKellen and, more recently, Kevin Spacey) is depressingly true.

KH has looked so dead behind the eyes for the past few years, except when alone with Suri. Lucky for her that her contract is up.

Sad way to live a chunk of your life though.

So, will Katie ever see Suri again? II wonder who the children will call " mummy " now

Yes women can relate to openly gay men romantically in film (John Barrowman as Captain Jack in Dr Who for example). Just as you can relate romantically to men in old films, I remember thinking as a teen watching "The Boyfriend" that in reality those men were old enough to be my Dad.

There are also those brave "straight" actors who play gay roles. Although I just wait now to be told they are all gay (just like most men in history are now claimed to be gay).

isn't Tom Hardy gay? and is there a single red blooded woman who didn't "relate" to him in Wuthering Heights?

I still fancy George Michael far more than I ought to, a little part of me still wonders if I can 'turn' him.

"So, will Katie ever see Suri again? "

That is a very good point.

No Robin Williams also had an affair with his nanny and went on to marry her - was quite a while back though. God knows why I remember stuff like this though.

WRT to gay actors, it will be interesting to see what Zachary Quinto gets cast in now he has come out as gay.

"But why on earth would that be SoupDragon?

Didn't you hear him tell the world on Oprah that he was in love?

Those were the actions of a very straight man."

[snort]

Because of fertility problems rather than sexual orientation :o

But when was the last time Tom Cruise had a romantic lead? As in his character actually had a love interest? The last one I can remember is Open Your Eyes with Penelope Cruz/Cameron Diaz. And even then it wasn't really swoony love of my life kinda thing - it was a life affirming/bachelor discovers the meaning of life kind of thing.

These days he's an action lead - though some people's bigotry might say a gay man can't be an action lead. Pfft. I guess the only point I'm making is that it's just occurred to me that TC hasn't had a love interest in his films in aaaaaaaages.

I fancy Neil Patrick Harris. I do think they can still have the same effect on you regardless of sexuality but I also don't think a lot of the mid west and deep south of America would share my view. And that's a large number of cinema ticket buying people

Sorry not Open Your Eyes (that's the original Spanish one) but Vanilla Sky. But since Penelope Cruz repeatedly says "open your eyes, open you eyes, open your eyes" at the end as some kind of homage to the original, I can't be blamed for getting them mixed up

No way is Tom Hardy gay!
He is engaged to the actress he was in the Martina Cole tv drama with....

He's definitely bi - he's said as much in interviews. I don't think he thinks of it in those terms though, just that he's attracted to who he's attracted too

To!

Tom Hardy - swoon. Tom Cruise - not swoon some. The whole Oprah thing wrecked it not that I was ever that keen.

Agree mummytime - soooo fancy Mike out of neighbours even in 'Priscilla'
Don't even think he is gay IRL

Guy Pearce (and I love that he is still called 'Mike from Neighbours', that's what I call him too) is not gay, although he does a good line in playing gay guys. As is mentioned upthread, however - this is more acceptable than gay actors playing straight ones (even though surely it's the same bloody thing).

There is a very cute lovely actor called Sean Maher who came out not long ago - I tweeted him to say basically: I had no idea, and don't care! In a good way. Hopefully the reaction of most of his fans. For men of a certain age and with very long, established careers (TC, George Clooney ALLEGEDLY) - isn't it time to come out once and for all? In the words of Dr Pepper, what's the worst that could happen? If the serious power brokers of Hollywood can't break the glass ceiling (unless there's another term for this kind of prejudice), who can?

I cant say I was at all suprised to find out about TC and KH splitting up - they are rarely photographed as a family anyway and most of the pictures at big events with any of his wives, past or present always have a 'staged & posed' look about them as they are designed to promote TC, the actor.

TC's best bit of acting was his jumping on the sofa on the Oprah show -I always thought that was because he was so relieved that his team had managed to find him another 'wife' to support the image! Definately believe the rumours about upcoming actresses who are 'hired' to play the role of wives to these guys in exchange for furthering their careers and having nice lifestyle, hence TC's reputation as a control freak.

I have long thought that TC was gay anyway and infertile as all his ex-wives have gone on to marry again and have children with their new partners. I suspect that the Scientology link in the Hollywood circles is a cosy club for those who are gay and it is just a 'cover'. Look at the rumours that are now emerging about John Travolta to name but one - would love to know what his wife has to say about it all.

In this day and age it is a shame that they feel the need to hide the truth, but I suppose as other MN'ers have posted, it is all about keeping a certain 'image' so that people will go and see the films that they make. As other people have commented, a lot of the actors/actresses are 'out' in the hollywood circles they mix in and it is an open secret. Feel sorry for SC though, that kid is going to have 'issues' as she gets older, so in many ways hope KH does get custody of her and she may stand a chance of a more 'normal' life.

I think it's incredibly sad that it's so, but yes, Hollywood does shy away from actors being honest about their sexuality.

There was a section in the biography of Brangelina that came out a couple years ago that said that among A list stars, there were only a handful that were genuinely straight. The only really famous ones I can remember were Bruce Willis, Johnny Depp and Brad Pitt but there were about ten on the list.

Personally it doesn't make any difference to me - As a kid I was brought up watching Doris Day movies & I desperately wanted to marry Rock Hudson. Finding out he was gay didn't make any difference to my fancying him. Or Rupert Everett, John Barrowman, or Lovely Mark Gatiss...

Celebrity crushes are so utterly far from reality that I don't see how it makes any difference. I just think it's so sad that in 2012 people for whatever reason, feel the need to hide who they are and deny their own reality because of fear of public reprisal, or damage to their career. It's no way to live, or to ask other people to live (in Tom's case). I guess it's just part of Hollywood corruption though; money before principles, honesty or happiness.

Sigh...

Maybe though we all just think it's because of the Hollywood machine and roles - when really it's just because they don't feel the need to come out publicly?

Though that has no water when you have orchestrations of straight marriages and children.

I am -ing at myself for this post.

Anyone else really worried for her that she will lose her custody battle??

His older 2 dcs stayed with him rather than NK didn't they.

I feel sorry for her as an individual, but not sure that makes her the most stable home. Lots of reports of her taking her daughter out till all hours of the evening and treating her like her best/only friend rather than her daugher. IMO its very hard for a child to be in a relationship like that with a parent, and its GROSS to watch (I've seen it on holiday, the only 5* holiday I ever went on had women taking their children out in the evenings as their dates/plus ones)

course that's just an angle in the press, it might have been once, it might be regular, but if its a regular dynamic then its not necesssarily the best place for the child is it? A more stable father/daughter/other siblings home might be better??

dunno! in terms of the relationship TC is the baddie and KH is the one deserving of sympathy but I don't think that ALWAYS translates to her being the best one for majority custody???