I’m a convert to Islam AMA

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All in the title really.

feel free to ask. I know this has been done before but irl people always seem fascinated but too afraid to ask yet have LOTS of questions

i’ll answer a few in advance: I’m white british
I’ve been Muslim 12 years. Since my early 20s
i didn’t convert for a man (Christians and Jews wouldn’t need to anyway)

hope this can be a place to ask a question you’ve wanted to ask IRL but maybe felt too shy or was worried someone would take it the wrong way

To you? Or in general. It’s an AMA from you - so I’m asking.

You, you said you weren’t commenting on the thread anymore

Thank you.

Changed my mind. I’m interested on your take on Islamic extremism and violence. Its obsession with terror and subjugation of women. And mainly how you feel about the genocide against its own people in the ME.

Again this is one of those odd and (probably goady) questions where a western Muslim is expected to answer and apologise for the crimes of a Muslim somewhere else.

i think I’ve covered this off to a similar question about the Taliban.

the genocide against its own people in the Middle East? Is this a ‘those primitive Arabs’ sort of question?

how do you feel about the genocide happening in Gaza? Do you think that’s a reflection of Judaism?

or why do you think white people have killed other white people, do you think that’s a reflection of Christianity?

I honestly don’t know. I wish I understood why people celebrate violence and death. I mean I’ve been attacked by several people here for being Jewish and Israeli. I suppose that’s just the way peoples’ minds work. It does look to me that certain aspects of Islam seem to celebrate death and subjugate women, but I suppose, as you’ve pointed out, it depends on interpretation and who you choose to focus on.
I think a lot of religion is steeped in primitive values as I’ve already discussed with you, and that I prefer a more modern outlook as a Jew. My husbands business partner is Palestinian and he and his wife are very literal and traditional, whereas as their children are more liberal and modern and don’t indentify with much of their parents’ attitude- the girls don’t wear hijabs, but use a scarf loosely over their hair when in public - small things like that.

When’s the last time there was a white Christian on white Christian massacre?

The more I think about it, the more I dislike organised religion. Sadly.

This can’t be a real question? When was there a war? Or an attack on majority white people committed by another white person? Leaving the biggies such as the holocaust (it was not just Jews that were the target of this) and the Yugoslavian war (Serbs also called croats, both Christian). Let’s think about every mass shooting in the US, which are fairly frequent

But for the Muslim analogy to hold (i e Sunni versus Shia), a strand of Christianity would have to form part of the motive for any massacre.

But it was in the yogoslav war, Croats are Catholic and Serbs are orthodox

i also refute that very premise, your first question was when has there ever been a white Christian on white Christian massacre. I gave you several examples, you didn’t specify of which sectarianism playing a large role. Because what plays a huge role in all of these geopolitical conflicts is us v them, sects is just one way of that. The holocaust was ubermensch v untermensch (which included fellow Christians, disabled, slavs, homosexuals etc)

but sects in Islam being the reason there is conflict in the ME is a gross over simplification. These sects lived side by side for centuries in relative harmony. The problem is that these minor doctrinal differences have been politicised and preyed upon and then you have to remember foreign interference in these countries too.

And @LadyGooGaa that was pure hate speech. Well done ‘hun’

perhaps you want to read up on ww2 and T4

Hitler loathed Christianity almost as much as he loathed Judaism. The Bosnians and Bosnian Croats were of course initially allies and they remained allies in certain regions throughout.

This isn’t true, he leaned into Christianity to further his purpose although yes he wasn’t ideologically committed to Christianity.

yes I’m aware that a puppet fascist state was installed in Croatia and because the leader (who’s name escapes me) was born in what would be Bosnia he was sympathetic to them so they weren’t regarded as untermensch

however the over arching point of the Slavs being untermensch still stands

I dispute the fact that Hitler could in any way be described as a practising Christian but in any event to describe the Holocaust as a Christian white on Christian white massacre is shall we say, a bit of a stretch.

no one said he was an observant Christian, but he was a cultural one.

im sorry how can you not say there was no white on white killing as part of the holocaust? That is plain Ignorant. T4? The mass extermination of the disabled? Were they not white in your version of events?

this othering of Muslims has to stop! It is exactly the same rhetoric that led to other groups of people being viewed as subhuman.

Christians don’t tend to massacre each other these days. Unfortunately there are still many cases of Muslims doing this to each other around the world but unless Jews are involved most people don’t seem terribly interested.

Yes but the point is that the disabled weren’t killed because they were Christian and nor was anyone else in the Holocaust.

But the point is that these people aren’t being killed because they are shia / Sunni. They are being killed because they have been othered by whatever regime or people in authority.

it is exactly the same process, different sects of Islam lived alongside one another for centuries. The crisis in the ME is recent (in terms of world history) and made worse by foreign intervention.

islamcially the preservation of human life, Muslim or otherwise is paramount which is why Muslim councils around the world denounce this violence

But that’s our media and again because Muslim life has been made less greivable on the world stage.

there’s a large amount towards our geopolitical allies, cough saudi cough. It serves our purpose to turn a blind eye

The point these comments are getting to really proves my point.

they are going towards the Muslim mind is more backwards, prone towards violence, hateful, hates women. They are ‘different’ than us, can’t be trusted. Reminds me of that song from pochantes where the fat white guy sings ‘they’re not like you and me which means they can’t be trusted… savages savages barely even human’

What’s stopping Muslims from protesting the horrible slaughters that are happening to fellow Muslims around the world? There are more than 50 majority Muslim countries in the world and Muslims make up around a quarter of the global population.

They do!

its where we give huge sums of charity too.

people have protested the Saudi bombing assault on Yemen, Assad’s use of chemical weapons,etc im surprised you don’t know this

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslims-march-london-protest-isis-terrorism-ashura-islam-peaceful-demonstrators-a7980476.html

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/muslims-stage-protest-against-assad-6399275.html

amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/15/protests-in-north-west-syria-mark-13-years-since-start-of-fight-for-democracy

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20240112-us-uk-launch-airstrikes-on-yemen-s-houthi-rebels

few links for you