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I work with murderers and sex offenders
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Meili04 · 19/09/2022 12:08

Just that really cant really be too precise on some questions because of confidentiality.

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Alicetheowl · 19/09/2022 12:15

Are there any that protest their innocence who you genuinely believe?

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cushioncovers · 19/09/2022 12:16

Does rehabilitation work?

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whythou111 · 19/09/2022 12:21

@Meili04 are there any traits you feel they all sort of share, as in is there a trait that if you saw it in your social life it would ring serious alarm bells for you? Even something that’s not usually considered particularly bad

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Meili04 · 19/09/2022 12:25

Alicetheowl · 19/09/2022 12:15

Are there any that protest their innocence who you genuinely believe?

Perhaps one I did as they protested it throughout their detention never wavered or changed their story . They also had a low IQ and I personally didn't think they were capable of spinning a web of elaborate lies. Most of the liar ones change their stories constantly most don't actually outright deny they just don't talk about their offences.

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teaiseverything · 19/09/2022 12:25

When have you felt most un-safe?

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Meili04 · 19/09/2022 12:28

cushioncovers · 19/09/2022 12:16

Does rehabilitation work?

In some cases yes if it was a one off and they are genuinely remorseful some aren't. I believe sex offenders particularly peadophiles are just trying to keep their heads down and get out as soon as possible some I'd say will definitely go on to reoffend and are just gaming the system. Most cause little to no trouble in the environment and are genuinely pleasant to staff whether that's an act sometimes we can't be sure.

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Meili04 · 19/09/2022 12:32

whythou111 · 19/09/2022 12:21

@Meili04 are there any traits you feel they all sort of share, as in is there a trait that if you saw it in your social life it would ring serious alarm bells for you? Even something that’s not usually considered particularly bad

I wouldn't say there's a particular stereotype of looks , weight. Some people can look rather dead in the eyes , like blank and dark. I'd say adverse childhood experiences and isolation but some have had completely normal family backgrounds.

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Meili04 · 19/09/2022 12:35

teaiseverything · 19/09/2022 12:25

When have you felt most un-safe?

I was once on a 1:1with someone through a plastic window cell. He was saying he was like Hitler and he was going to rape me when he got out of there and he was going to rape all the women in the world. It was slightly unnerving but I told him he won't because he won't be leaving that room if he carries on. Most of them are respectful and polite I maintain boundaries with them but I never talk down to them.

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DesignerRecliner · 19/09/2022 12:35

How do you work objectively knowing the depravity of those around you? I understand people need to work with them in some instances but how?!

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Workyticket · 19/09/2022 12:39

Do they often present as 'normal people' in your opinion?

I've taught for years and around 12 of my ex students are now in prison for serious offences. 1 murder, rape, serious assault, planned (buy not carried out) terror attack etc

All but 1 were real, genuine surprises to me and I struggled to see them as rhe ordinary lads I'd known

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Meili04 · 19/09/2022 12:42

DesignerRecliner · 19/09/2022 12:35

How do you work objectively knowing the depravity of those around you? I understand people need to work with them in some instances but how?!

I didn't actually go into my job knowing I'd be working with these kinds of people. I actually got moved to forensic services. I did struggle a bit at first of how can somebody do those things but can be funny etc. I separate the person from their offence some offenders can actually be quite humourous and likeable. The offence/s are not the whole part of their personality. I'm always mindful of risk and boundaries so it's always at the back of my mind. The state has punished them by depriving them of their liberty. I'm not there to punish I'm there to treat and aid rehabilitation.

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Meili04 · 19/09/2022 12:43

Workyticket · 19/09/2022 12:39

Do they often present as 'normal people' in your opinion?

I've taught for years and around 12 of my ex students are now in prison for serious offences. 1 murder, rape, serious assault, planned (buy not carried out) terror attack etc

All but 1 were real, genuine surprises to me and I struggled to see them as rhe ordinary lads I'd known

Some do have dead/blank eyes but yes some present as humorous normal have engaging personalities.

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Hawkins001 · 19/09/2022 12:43

In general what were the common or uncommon motives for murders ?

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DesignerRecliner · 19/09/2022 12:44

Thank you for your answer, I appreciate your honesty and objectivity. If it every reached parliament, would you support the forced castration of convicted paedophiles/rapists? It's terrifying that you say they're gaming the system and some cannot be rehabilitated

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Meili04 · 19/09/2022 12:46

Hawkins001 · 19/09/2022 12:43

In general what were the common or uncommon motives for murders ?

Gang related in with the wrong crowd, drunk and had a fight which escalated . I've come across a few that have murdered family members or in-laws.

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Meili04 · 19/09/2022 12:49

DesignerRecliner · 19/09/2022 12:44

Thank you for your answer, I appreciate your honesty and objectivity. If it every reached parliament, would you support the forced castration of convicted paedophiles/rapists? It's terrifying that you say they're gaming the system and some cannot be rehabilitated

Hmmm physical castration ? Or chemical? I think chemical is already prescribed in some cases but not described as such. Many drugs give the side effect of reduced sex drive and impotence. I personally wouldn't support physical castration that seems barbaric for a civilised country.

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Hawkins001 · 19/09/2022 12:53

Any potential serial killer types ?

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partypingal · 19/09/2022 12:57

Do you think some are in denial about their crimes?

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loislovesstewie · 19/09/2022 13:22

I worked as a homeless officer and interviewed quite a few ex-offenders, including paedophiles and other sex offenders and a few murderers. Not so much a question I suppose, but I always said I knew when a person was a paedophile without being told as they had a habit of trying to 'groom ' me . I think that they had a natural tendency to try to get me on their side for their own purpose,mostly to get housed where they wanted to be. I'm wondering if others have had that too? ( BTW, it didn't work with me)

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HairyMothballs · 19/09/2022 13:26

Would you like to see the return of the death penalty?

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Meili04 · 19/09/2022 14:34

loislovesstewie · 19/09/2022 13:22

I worked as a homeless officer and interviewed quite a few ex-offenders, including paedophiles and other sex offenders and a few murderers. Not so much a question I suppose, but I always said I knew when a person was a paedophile without being told as they had a habit of trying to 'groom ' me . I think that they had a natural tendency to try to get me on their side for their own purpose,mostly to get housed where they wanted to be. I'm wondering if others have had that too? ( BTW, it didn't work with me)

Definitely they like to groom you to manipulate. I saw it like that but most of the time they were the least challenging and easy to deal with. Very undemanding, limited challenging behaviour. I think as long as you aware of that it's fine. A unit full of peadophiles would be more peaceful than other places 🤣.

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Meili04 · 19/09/2022 14:35

partypingal · 19/09/2022 12:57

Do you think some are in denial about their crimes?

Yes definitely some refuse to talk about their offences at all.

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RewildingAmbridge · 19/09/2022 14:37

Do you believe the culture and of prisons and training of prison staff is conducive to genuine rehabilitation? (Not pension staff in custody actual prison staff).
What are your views on the recent changes to the parole process?

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RewildingAmbridge · 19/09/2022 14:39

*probation

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1ittlegreen · 19/09/2022 14:46

Have you ever met a psychopath or someone with a personality disorder?

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