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I’m a midwife AMA

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Doubleyouexwhyandzed · 16/02/2020 17:13

I’m a midwife, with 15 years experience. AMA Smile

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pingu777 · 16/02/2020 20:59

How old were you when you qualified?

Lazydaisydaydream · 16/02/2020 21:01

Do you care/notice if people have shaved their legs/bikini line etc?! This always worries me as I tend to just let my pubic hairs roam free but worry the midwives are all judging me Blush

Lazydaisydaydream · 16/02/2020 21:02

and a more serious question.... What are your favourite and least favourite parts of the job?

Hangingtrousers · 16/02/2020 21:04

I had my baby 5 months ago.
I had a home birth and 10lb+
When I was giving birth my babies head came out but after awhile of pushing he wasn't coming out.
They asked me to get out of the pool and as I stood he fell out and they caught him. He was shocked but all was ok.

Question is - what would the midwife's have done if he hadn't come out when I stood up?

TheLovleyChebbyMcGee · 16/02/2020 21:04

What's the heaviest baby you've ever delivered?

auslass · 16/02/2020 21:08

Second the hair removal question!

Also, my midwife is trying to steer me away from an epidural. I really want one, don't deal with pain well and am terrified of childbirth, this is my first baby. Why would she be so against epidurals but ok with pethadine which actually does go to baby through the placenta?

MeadowHay · 16/02/2020 21:12

I had a ventouse delivery with my first and an episiotomy. I found the birth traumatic and still suffer psychologically as a result of it even though my child is now 1.5. I had a long recovery with my episiotomy and nobody seemed to know why it was still so painful for me up until about 9 months PP as I had no infection and it seemed to be healing well. I have a weak pelvic floor (although no stress incontinence other than if violently vomiting, and no prolapse) - I had pelvic floor physio who told me this. Would you advise me to try again for a vaginal birth with our next one or just have an elective section? I'm pretty confident I would refuse consent for a second instrumental delivery which also makes me think it would just be safer then to have an ELCS.

snowone · 16/02/2020 21:16

I just want to say that I think you are all AMAZING! That's all! 😀

stophuggingme · 16/02/2020 21:24

Do you get used to the poo when loads of us are in labour?

ClubfootMaestro · 16/02/2020 21:24

Do you think birth injury and the impact these have on the lives of so many women is minimised by the medical profession?

Doubleyouexwhyandzed · 17/02/2020 08:30

I was 25 when I qualified.

We don’t judge pubes. We don’t even notice them. Unless they were heart shaped, dyed red and vajazzled- then I might be quite impressed and your ability to reach.
My favourite parts of the job.... nearly all of it. Particularly helping someone achieve their dream second birth when the first birth was rough. This happens a lot and is so emotionally healing. My worst is anything terribly terribly sad, babies lost. And also sometimes the smells of people who haven’t washed in a long long time, and then get really close to my face. That’s quite challenging.

Hanging trousers. Sounds like possibly a shoulder dystopia. There are several manoeuvres we do to move these babies. Firstly something called McRoberts, where your legs are supports up and out to widen the pelvic diameters. Then some pressure just above your pubic bone to help squeeze the babies shoulders more narrow, then finally trying to manually turn the babies shoulders from inside. But, In my experience, foot up on the pool step fixes it most of the time!

Heaviest baby was 10lb 6, beautiful boy, first baby and like the baby above he got stuck at the shoulders. I had to hook his arm out to make his shoulders narrower so they could be born. He was a gorgeous squishy baby.

Epidurals- I guess she’s steering you away from it because it can have quite a negative impact on labour progress. But actually what would be much better is if she gave you all that info and let you make your choice, it’s always up to you. Epidurals usually affect your mobility, when you’re less mobile it can affect the natural labour progress, it also often means a catheter, iv drip, continuous monitoring of baby. We know continuous monitoring increases your chance of intervention, epidurals make it harder to push and increase your chance of having forceps/ventouse. All that being said, they usually provide really effective pain relief.

Meadowhay- it’s really really unlikely you would need any help to birth your next baby. It’s also much less likely that you have any trauma to your perineum.neatly every second birth is about a million times easier than the first. Speaking personally, I had an epis with my first which fell to bits. It took two years for it to feel normal again and now after 8 years is perfect. My second birth was easy peasy, no stitches, no problems, as is usually the case. Focus on your pelvic floor exercises and health, and look into birth reflections if your hospital had it, and counselling services and the birth trauma association online. Ultimately, go for whichever feels right.

Thanks snow one!!! Most of us try really hard!!!

Totally immune to poo, poo is part and parcel of babies. We usually get quite excited when the poo appears because it means we are getting a baby soon! 😂

I think a lot of postnatalwonens issues are minimised. Massive feminist issue. We need the medical establishment to stop accessing the success of maternity care based on who is still alive. We need our women physically and mentally well into their futures. Big issue, slowly improving.

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Doubleyouexwhyandzed · 17/02/2020 08:31

Apologies for the typos!

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Spudlet · 17/02/2020 08:39

Do you become desensitised to women in labour? The attitude I found from some of the people who ‘cared’ (inverted commas completely intentional) for me in labour wasn’t great - I think they saw my labour as perfectly normal (which it was to be fair), but as a first-time mother it was all new to me (and I had done antenatal classes) and I was scared. But they were really brusque and unfeeling with me and I ended up being alone in a dark room all night when I was induced, as they were so snappy that I didn’t think I was allowed to call DH and I was reluctant to ask them for any help, even on how the tv worked to distract myself a bit from the contractions.

I will say that when I got to delivery suite the midwife I had there was fab, but the early care was not good - I felt a bit like it was forgotten that while they might see this everyday, it’s not an everyday occurrence for the woman actually going through it, IYSWIM. Is that something you have to remind yourself of from time to time?

WoollyFoolly · 17/02/2020 08:45

Do you know about the effect entonox has on b12 and that anyone with b12 deficiency shouldn't use it?
I have pernicious anaemia diagnosed after having my children and the risks of entonox were never mentioned as far as I remember. I wondered if that's because it's not generally known about or whether if I'd been diagnosed before babies it would have been picked up?

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 17/02/2020 08:53

Thank you for everything you do.

Thoughts on home Dopplers? I personally will never use one but I when speaking to others about my concerns with them, I would like a midwife’s take.

recreationalcalpol · 17/02/2020 08:53

What’s your view on mixed sex postnatal wards, and WIBU to elect for a private birth next time round just to avoid them?

MsChatterbox · 17/02/2020 08:57

I feel so undecided between a vbac or elective. My previous emcs was due to failure to progress.. 8cm dilated after 34 hours and waters were broken early on when checking dilation. I feel like vbac is the right choice but find the whole thing a bit scary!

MsChatterbox · 17/02/2020 08:58

Also my son was just shy of 9lbs. I'm afraid of birthing a big baby! (I realise there are bigger out there birthed successfully!)

annie9876 · 17/02/2020 09:00

How do you handle women who have had a traumatic first birth in the immediate aftermath?I had a drip induction, pethadine (horrific!) epidural( fantastic!), episiotomy, 3rd degree tear and massive blood loss.

I'm now 4 months post birth and don't want another child due to the birth I had. Every time I see a health professional (lots of appointments as my epis isn't healing correctly) I just get laughed at when I say I'm not having anymore children and they have all said "we'll remind you of that in 2 years after your next baby"

It makes me feel like no one has taken the impact the birth had on me seriously.

I had no check up with the gp after the birth and the HV team made me feel so stupid for saying I can't get over the birth telling me that my birth was just like many of other women's and that it was nothing out of the ordinary. at the last appointment I just told them I was fine and my MH was ok (it's not. I left that appointment and sat in my car in tears for 40 minutes before I was able to drive home)

Maybe I'm just unfortunate in my area but I don't even know what happened for a lot of my labour so would have expected some support in the hospital straight after the birth (not a single person asked how I was doing in those 2 days)

Trooperslaneagain · 17/02/2020 09:04

Just also adding to the 'you lot are amazing'

My second baby died and I had to deliver - worst day of my life - and the lovely lady who was looking after me sat on the bed and cried with me, hugging me like she was my Mum.

I was so grateful to have someone who genuinely cared and understood what I was going through. I still well up when I think about her.

I sent her a card after to thank her.

whatnow40 · 17/02/2020 09:38

My baby was footling breach and we had an elective section booked. I went in to labour and progressed really quickly, 2cm to 8cm in 45 mins. I wanted a section still, but every midwife and medic that came to see me tried to convince me to go for a vaginal birth. Around 6 different people within 20 mins while we waited for theatre. Why would they do this?

I'd made a decision when not in labour and wanted to stick with it, but I felt so vulnerable with the contractions coming so hard and fast, it felt like they were massively overstepping. Is it normal?

chuffoff · 17/02/2020 09:42

Do you think that women are now given too much choice when it comes to labour and childbirth and this raises their expectations so that when it doesn't go according to plan they come away either traumatised or feeling like they've failed?

20viona · 17/02/2020 09:45

I had a retained placenta during the birth of my first baby and had to have a spinal to get it removed in theatre ... is this likely to occur with subsequent children?

Doubleyouexwhyandzed · 17/02/2020 21:04

Hi sorry, busy day. I’m going to try to keep it quick to try to answer all. Please come back to me if I miss anything.

Some midwives have become desensitised to what a massive, vulnerable experience childbirth is. I think the reasons behind it are complex. Some it’s because they are jaded, exhausted and demoralised from working in the current climate. Some I think it’s self preservation- they have high standards but are continually broken hearted over not being able to provide the care they want and so they emotionally distance themselves so they don’t finish every day feeling like they have failed, sometimes it’s other things going on in their lives. Endless rounds of IVF, failed relationships, etc.
And for a handful- they are just bitches. And should fuck off somewhere else. I’m massively aware of it, drum it into anyone who will listen, especially students. Compassion is everything.

Entonox and B12- interesting. My knowledge is limited, my understanding was that prolonged >24 hrs use or the heavy duty use in anaesthetics could be an issue for vulnerable people , but I’ve never seen cautions for labour analgesia. The BNF is our go to guide.

Home dopplers are a worry. Much of what you can hear is blood flow, maternal circulation etc. Worrying Changes can be brief, dips in heart rate than come and go. Listening to a tap tap tap with little background knowledge doesn’t tell anything about baby’s wellbeing, and so can provide false reassurance. Best avoided. Learn your baby’s ‘normal’ call if you feel it has changed.

Mixed sex postnatal wards? Do you mean partners staying? I feel a bit uncomfortable with it but it seems to have been successful in our hospital. Women seem to like it, postnatal care can be patchy and it’s understandable they want quality, constant support from a loved one. Men have been pretty respectful and the midwives very strict about their conduct. I do see why it’s a worry though. You’d have to see if the private options where you are would meet your needs better. Private care here wouldn’t offer a private room as there’s not enough available, they are allocated on need.

VBAC v ELCS is a difficult call. For me, I’d want to explore the first labour and why it ended as it did. This gives some insight into whether it’s likely to be a repeat issue. For example, If it was a long labour due to a malposition, like a back to back baby, and you got to 8cm it’s most likely you’ll have a much easier, faster journey this time.
Have a good debrief if you can.

Traumatic births are seemingly so commonplace these days, and yet so under supported. Postnatal services have been so under valued and resources that once you’ve both made it there in one piece you are so quickly expectiled to be gaining independence and moving on. It’s a really sad state of affairs, a reflection of the current nhs funding crisis. I’m so sorry :( I’d recommend seeing if your hospital has a birth reflections service, have a good debrief. Look into the birth trauma association online too, they are excellent.

TROOPERS I’m so so sorry for your loss. I’m pleased you were shown the compassion you deserved. Your Midwife will always remember you and your baby. She will have been so so pleased with that card.

BREECH birth vaginally dropped way off the radar for many years after a slightly crappy research saying it was dangerous. Women were rail roared into CS and not counselled well. Recently this has started to improve and it might be the knock in effect is that people wereso keen to ensure you knew you had choices that everyone mentioned l. Also, when women progress really quickly that’s usually a positive sign for the success of a vagina breech birth, and so they probably were trying to say that the felt you had a really good chance of having a vaginal birth and avoiding the complications of section. It can also complicate the CS if the labour has progressed quickly and the baby decended, almost a pushing the baby back in scenario. I’m sorry you felt they overstepped. Each person probably thought they were offering you a new perspective but didn’t realise that lots of people had also done it and you were understandably feeling harassed.

I don’t feel women have too much choice, I’m not sure there’s such a thing. But I do feel expectations v reality causes a lot of trauma for women. I work in a midwife led birth unit and in my practice I often see women who are really really well educated in what to expect but also develop a rigidity of their birth plan. Those women really struggle if the birth doesn’t go to plan as they are almost conditioned to think that if they do everything ‘right’ it’ll be a breeze. So many factors are at play, we can’t control birth, and that’s a huge weight to feel you’ve failed in giving birth. Really sad. Better postnatal support would be the ideal, but also access to really good quality Midwife led antenatal education. Some of the antenatal classes lack balance and experience of the realities of birth.

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Doubleyouexwhyandzed · 17/02/2020 21:07

20viona it does seem that if you’ve had a retained placenta in a previous birth then it’s a higher chance than average for a next birth. However, it’s still much more likely that you don’t than you will. It’s worth looking at how the third stage was managed last time ie was it active or physiological, were there any delays etc. A good debrief with your midwife might help you plan fir the next time.

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