I’m a gay man. AMA

[EcoCleaner]

Gay, spent much of my formative years on “the scene”, Irish catholic family on my side and Muslim in-laws.

Ask me anything.

[PerverseConverse]

Its pretty shit to say ask me anything and then cherry pick which questions you answer too

[Smotheroffivefourthreetwoone]

And...oops for the mulitple posting! But congrats, and shocked at what you've has to endure. Just bloody wtaf, and sorry to hear

[BlancheM]

I'm not transphobic because I find 'a trans woman is a woman, end of conversation' disrespectful. I'm not a bigot. I have no problem with trans folk. No shame in being trans, so why not embrace it? Is it not transphobic to deny the 'trans' element of transwoman?

[slithytove]

No worries Opal I need a thicker skin. I don’t want it to become normalised is all.

[EcoCleaner]

Smotheroffivefourthreetwoone not that I've seen much of it here, but I think one point is that nobody ever truly knows how another person feels. And I think a lot of homophobia and transphobia stems from the fear of the unknown.

[slithytove]

Trans woman is trans woman.


Op I would appreciate answers to my questions if you would oblige

[BlancheM]

I'd say some of the 'a trans woman is not a woman' sentiment is more transphobic than anything Ive said tbh.
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I'm not sure how you got the impression I was telling anyone they're being transphobic.
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You said both of these things, OP.

[OpalIridescence]

Eco, if one person never knows how another feels how can a man possibly ever feel like a woman?

[EcoCleaner]

BlancheM I've honestly never thought of it like that before. Apologies for any disrespect, it certainly wasn't intended as such. For me, thinking about LGBT rights and equality, the whole point of equality is in the word "equal". Being treated with equal consideration, respect and opportunity regardless of gender or sexuality. With that in mind, why would a trans lady or trans man not want to be a thought of as a "real woman" or "real man" (for lack of better expressions?). That's a question I'll have to ask my trans friends :)

[tobee]

I think op is blurring the definitions of sex, sexuality and gender.

[slithytove]

Op, do you think men are equal to women? Despite their biological differences?

[BlancheM]

Eco I do see where you're coming from but I would like to see women to be treated fairly instead if their rights being eroded in the process of 'equality' for everyone else.

[Lacypants]

Hi op!
Do you / have you ever use gay saunas? What do you think of gay hook-up culture?

[BlancheM]

(Sorry about my typos)

[NicoAndTheNiners]

OP, you do realise that a lot of trans men don’t have any form of surgery? Haven’t you heard of male vaginas/clitoris? And on the opposite side, lady dicks?

If you didn’t want to have sex with a person with a vagina who said they’re a man that makes you a big old transphobe!

[Truckingonandon]

You've still not answered my question, so I'll ask again. Define emotionally male? (You said you definitely feel emotionally male).

[EcoCleaner]

slithytove Apologies, I didn't intentionally miss out your questions. Just looking through now.

I've yet to meet a trans person who considers "trans" to be something other than male or female. Although I know that those people exist, I can't say I know the hows or whys.

I would never consider a trans woman to be any less of a woman than a person who was born as such. Equally I would never consider a trans man to be anything other than all man. And that isn't mysoginistic or transphobic, despite what anyone may read into it.

[Smotheroffivefourthreetwoone]

He just said it was more transphobic, that's not actually saying it is. Slightly different, possible poor use in this context though considering current climate.
This: And I think a lot of homophobia and transphobia stems from the fear of the unknown
As I have already demonstrated my ignorance of both to anyone watching, I am not feeling fearful so I wonder where this link comes from. My fear is being naked next to a bio male in a women's only space. I'm not (and this is not directed at you OP) happy to be forced into feeling comfortable with something that makes me (and it seems vast numbers of women) uncomfortable.
Sex as male is an anatomical biological expression of chromosomes, not a anatomical/chemical transformation.

Is this thread still about being a gay male, I'm not so sure it seems, in some ways to be more one person's views of trans

[SchnitzelVonKrumm]

Are you for real? You obviously don't know the difference between a transvestite and transgener.

Are you really not aware that any distinction between someone with full surgical realignment and a male who occasionally cross-dresses is regarded as transphobic nowadays? And that lesbians who won't suck a self-styled "female" cock are characterised as vagina-fetishing bigots?
Because these things are being pushed in the name of LGBT people.

[bubbles092]

Does it hurt when you have it up the bum?

[EcoCleaner]

slithytove do I think we're equal? Yes. Do I think we're always treated equally? No, sadly.

BlancheM I agree but we need to be mindful of the tipping points. It's too easy to skew the lines between equality and giving a minority preferential treatment in the name of equality, therefore giving an advantage. Positive discrimination and all that.

[Smotheroffivefourthreetwoone]

bubbles did you see his answer to mine about bum action? Think that might've answered yours

[EcoCleaner]

Apologies folks, I'm slightly playing catch up....getting there.

[PerverseConverse]

"I would never consider a trans woman to be any less of a woman than a person who was born as such. Equally I would never consider a trans man to be anything other than all man. And that isn't mysoginistic or transphobic, despite what anyone may read into it."

Yet earlier you said:
"PerverseConverse I wouldn't be attracted to someone with breasts and it's highly unlikely I'd see their vagina on first meeting! Trans or otherwise, I'm pretty sure most people don't parade them around. As rude as it may be, I'd probably have to say "come back and see me once you've had the op"."

So you consider transmen to be men but you wouldn't be attracted to one.


How do you explain that?

[Smotheroffivefourthreetwoone]

I wouldn't consider then any 'less' either, like you, but that isn't saying that are the same, as it doesn't sound like, for you, they are the same? You're clearly not into vags, clits n tits. I don't think that's difficult to understand.

Whats so hating on ppl is all these hyper judgey labels