My child is considered an outlier AMA

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I know he/she (which I will alternate) is talented, but have been told this only recently.
Be kind please and AMA

OP, has your child done any testing with a psychologist to confirm giftedness? And do they have intense sensitivities like so many gifted children?

"the child is already with child proteges"
"The teachers didn't say protege, as they are all proteges or G&T, at the school anyway, it was the term used, I had to look it up."

And saw the definition "someone protected and helped by a more successful person"?

The word is prodigy.

"Child hasn't got a plan B, it's world domination in music or nothing."

Your child is musically talented and has a passion for it, which is great.

Have you heard of Alma Deutscher? Sorry to break this to you, but world domination in music is not a realistic life goal for your child when competing with her, unless he also composed this opera at the age of 7, this one at 11, has numerous concertos she composed such as this one, and can improvise like this.

Cote, all of that has been done and dusted upthread. And obviously the term OP looked up was "outlier", not "protege".

I don't see anyone else telling OP about Alma Deutscher and the unlikelihood of her child "dominating" the world of music with her in it.

My post was in response to your first one, Cote.

Why the hell would you post here knowing

have changed some details as the child doesn't like being talked about and identified, which happened on another forum.

Cote, the world domination thing was obviously tongue in cheek.

I understood that maths and music were related ?

Musical ability and mathematical ability don't always go together.

Outlier is a funny word! In terms of musical performance it implies unevenness across the year to me, hard to guess though. Coming from a specialist school it waves a small red flag, to be honest.

Cote, the world domination thing was obviously tongue in cheek.

Did you just do this post to shamefully boast?

There is nothing obviously tongue in cheek about it.

dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/outlier

Well it's jolly good that your child is talented. I have one who is a musician, it's lovely. Congratulations!

I wouldn't worry about teachers using odd language.

greyhound is right, it isn't tongue in cheek, but the child is thinking about dominating in a particular way, not at all like Alma, above.
It can be quite scary to hear sometimes.
At first you think it's a joke, then you try to move the subject, they say I'm serious, everyone will know my name, one day.
It was this type of attitude and belief that prompted the school to refer to CAMHS. They assessed for everything they could think of, they got to know us pretty well over the year, but found nothing particular in the end. They just said that child was very confident, determined and single minded.

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It may not have been the best idea to post, on hindsight, but to boast to random people I don't know sounds a bit daft, you'd never know if you heard the child in the future, that it was them on this thread.
I don't know you, if I was going to boast it would be to somebody I knew who might be able to attend a recital, to hear for themselves.

Does your child have good friends?
Do they have an interesting and balanced life and age appropriate activities?

I am of the opinion that playing an instrument just takes practice, lots and lots of practice, to be good.

I am tone deaf, literally can’t sing a note, yet by age 10 I had passed grade 6 in piano, and grade 5 in flute as well as playing in various orchestras and music groups and played solos in various concerts.

I had no natural ability, I just practiced everyday

*although I am very very good at maths so maybe that helped

I am also of the opinion that there is much more to being successful in life than being good at one thing. People skills are far more important and know one likes a smug know it all.
DS1 is an ‘outlier’ in English. I’d rather he learnt to tie his own shoe laces and didn’t burn toast as well as be more sociable to be honest

Yes, they do have good friends, but they mostly, all musicians.
As they are away quite a lot, there aren't many friends in our local area they kept in contact with, but best friend in home area isn't musical at all, but gifted at Maths could do really long sums as a small child (like Matilda)

They do have an interesting balanced life as siblings help with this. We all try to keep a good balance, but child will fight against it sometimes.
Scouts is a good age appropriate activity, but about the only thing apart from academic work where the child's peers are the same age.
The musical activities are with older students at the school and taking some lessons at a conservatoire with specialist tutors. other activities are done through the school.

I just wanted to thank @CoteDAzur for the link about Alma Deutsche. I had never heard of her. My daughter and I just spent a couple of hours watching YouTube videos of her astonishing talent.

Almost unearthly abilities and gifts.

I wonder why your child imagines they’re bound for world domination when, however musically talented they are - they’re just one pupil in an entire school full of similar children?
You mention not being strong academically. Are they intellectually limited in any other way?

Do you sometimes wish he was normal? Do you worry future romantic relationships will struggle to get of the ground or survive his drive and ambition?

And yes I too have been Iistening to Alma for an hour as I ironed! Incredible.

I don't understand the world dominance thing at all, but they are serious.

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The child can do normal things like cook, clean, manage money, and can communicate with people of all ages, from all walks of life.

I don't wish they were normal now, but I used to, all the time.
The siblings think he/she is weird, and very different to them, but support the music and are proud and encouraging.
The reason I don't now is because they are happy and surrounded by like minded people, and the pressure to find the resources, teachers, manage the behaviour, and constantly ferry around has gone.
I do get to see more concerts, gigs, recitals etc than ever before though, but then I come home.
We do have two children who don't want to dominate the world though, and who are quite normal in most respects.

At a specialist music school all the kids are talented to a degree, some because they practiced a lot and some who have natural musicality or a great voice, for example.

But one would hope that they would all learn to be well-rounded adults too, parents have a big part to play in that education.

Because however accomplished the musicians are they are not going to get every audition to go the way they hope, competition for conservatoire places is tough and much resilience is needed in a lifelong career in music.

Emotional well-being matters so much!

OP you are mirroring your DC in starting this thread, I think. Be proud of their ability but be realistic too.

Do you worry about the vast amount of talented musicians especially from the Far East when it comes to your child achieving their goals. Kids who are entering international music competitions in their late teens? No matter how talented you are there’s 1000s of equally or greater talents all vying for the same places in major orchestras, ensembles or tryIng to establish a solo career. It’s beyond brutal. My DB was so nearly good enough to be a solo pianist, scholarship at 15 for weekly lessons at the RNCM and went on to study there after leaving school. Whereas Stephen Hough who was there a few years after DB, made a solo career for himself, DB was just not quite as super-duper talented. DB has had (and in retirement still has) a rewarding career as a piano teacher, composer, gives performances locally and often accompanies other well known soloists.

For what it’s worth a lot of teens swear they will be hugely famous but no matter how great they are, they need a plan B for sure and to know that it they don’t achieve international stardom, they are still loved, valued, good, kind etc etc and that there is still a wonderful life to be lived.