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My child is considered an outlier AMA

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RomanyRoots · 28/07/2018 14:25

I know he/she (which I will alternate) is talented, but have been told this only recently.
Be kind please and AMA

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RomanyRoots · 28/07/2018 16:27

The school are bothered of course, but the main focus is on Music, with about 2/3 of timetable devoted to music.
They get good academic results as do all the music schools.

It's the child who isn't bothered about academics and doesn't see the point.
It can be very difficult getting mine to want to apply themselves when the admissions criteria is very low for their future study at conservatoire.

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ravenmum · 28/07/2018 16:28

What will happen if your child doesn't become a star, and goes on to be, say, a secondary school music teacher? Do you try to manage their expectations so that they won't feel a failure if, for some reason, they don't make the most of their talent?

Heratnumber7 · 28/07/2018 16:30

My child was G&T for in music. She said she copied everything from Chloe. Chloe wasn't G&T 😁

RomanyRoots · 28/07/2018 16:32

That is a good question.
I'm constantly saying about a plan B and world domination might not happen.
child is adamant that they will and by accepting a plan B they won't be as determined as they could cop out.
I do try to make them see though.
One of her/his friends just wants to teach at their school, that is his ambition and nothing wrong with this.
I often joke with his mother that they each need a little of the others view on their future.

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RomanyRoots · 28/07/2018 16:33

herat

That's very funny. Thanks

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glintandglide · 28/07/2018 16:34

I really love music but something I find hard is the time, money and life overtaking dedication put into a music career when the pay, security and prospects are actually so poor. Is this something that concerns your D.C.? Are they aware how much money and resource is being spent on them and how little financial return they’ll all see?

PriscillaLydiaSellon · 28/07/2018 16:34

@RomanyRoots, re. instrumental Diplomas. ABRSM or Trinity?

QueenoftheSilverDollar12 · 28/07/2018 16:38

I think somebody has slipped some weird substance into my baked potato and tuna at lunchtime or this thread is bonkers......

claraschu · 28/07/2018 16:42

I want to ask why it is necessary to fuss so much about the OPs use of "outlier" and "protege"? It was fairly obvious, fairly quickly, what the OP was trying to say.

Are you all trying to catch the OP out? Why? I mean, what's the point?

OP, I think kids like yours learn what they need to when they need the information. They are often surprisingly well-informed, even if they can't be bothered with GCSEs. Does your child feel the need to choose a major instrument? Does the school put pressure on your child to focus on one?

RomanyRoots · 28/07/2018 16:44

glint
Yes, they are very lucky to be able to see this through the community of the school, visiting professionals and of course those who are raised by musicians.
You don't do music as a profession if you want financial security and the kids at school seem aware of this.
The older ones joke about being skint for the rest of their lives.
I think if you can do something else, or can imagine doing another
job/career, then you should take it. both me and dh have told them this.
Mine is aware how much money is being spent on their education, and
is very grateful and appreciative.

Diploma's are ABRSM, the schools don't accept the other boards.
Although, I know they are just as good.
This could be merely snob value, but we don't get a say, just pay the bill.

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glintandglide · 28/07/2018 16:45

It wasn’t obvious at all Clara Confused I asked OP what she meant and she said she didn’t know. Then about 3 posts in she mentioned music. It was another page before it was clear OP was talking about having a talented musician

glintandglide · 28/07/2018 16:45

Thanks OP

Languageofkindness · 28/07/2018 16:47

It is an interesting thread RomanyRoots, always on G&T threads there are people who deliberately ‘don’t understand’, think you are boasting etc etc when actually shock horror there are children who are extremely talented at some things and life can be very different (I don’t have one myself, mine are very lovely but distinctly average 😀). I don’t really have a question but some posters are derailing what could be an interesting thread about dealing with/parenting a gifted child.

PriscillaLydiaSellon · 28/07/2018 16:47

Thanks, @RomanyRoots. I disagree, though - I think ABRSM is far superior to Trinity. One of my DC is a musician.

claraschu · 28/07/2018 16:47

Oh well it was clear to me after a few posts...
Oh the other thing that was clear was what was going on with the pronouns...

mommylovesyou · 28/07/2018 16:47

everyones kid is gifted in their mommy's eyes Biscuit

claraschu · 28/07/2018 16:50

There we go- another one-

Languageofkindness · 28/07/2018 16:52

I am sure you also understand mommylovesyou that some children are genuinely very gifted beyond ‘their mummy’s eyes’. I don’t have one myself but one of mine does have a friend who is and it is very obvious and very different and brings with it its own challenges.

RomanyRoots · 28/07/2018 17:01

Priscilla
it is considered as superior and as the schools mainly teach classical, and iirc don't even subscribe to the jazz grades, even though many study Jazz, it's obviously right for this environment.
I do know children in other what would be considered as normal schools take Trinity, Rock school etc and go on to study music at performing Arts colleges, and conservatoires so they obviously have their own appeal, maybe more pop or theatre?.

Thank you to those who understand the reason for posting.
Yes, many challenges, and referrals to CAMHS.
When your child openly states that they are world class, not going to listen to reason, know exactly what they are doing and act as though they are superior, you begin to worry. Especially if your other kids are normal.

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RomanyRoots · 28/07/2018 17:03

In fairness, I may have been a bit vague as only just coming to terms with some of the words myself.

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PriscillaLydiaSellon · 28/07/2018 17:03

Language, I have one (and others, who are not gifted in the slightest). It would be easier to parent 10 non-gifted children than one gifted one.

I wouldn't start an AMA about it, though.

glintandglide · 28/07/2018 17:05

Can I ask what specifically is so tough about it? Is it poor behaviour? Something else?

PriscillaLydiaSellon · 28/07/2018 17:07

@RomanyRoots, yes, they have their place (though it's not at a specialist music school). I could write a PhD on music exams and musically gifted children. But I won't.

Languageofkindness · 28/07/2018 17:13

Totally get you Priscilla there are a couple of AMA threads that I could have posted myself but wouldn’t. Really glad they did though as they are interesting to others even if we wouldn’t post ourselves. I love AMA.

RomanyRoots · 28/07/2018 17:46

clara

All the kids have a first instrument, however this could be a joint study with a specifically related instrument.
So a flautist could also play piccolo. Clarinet may also do Sax, flute as these are asked for doubling in the industry.
You couldn't have joint woodwind and brass, or strings and woodwind etc as joint study.
Then Piano is a compulsory second instrument. You aren't expected to be a concert pianist unless it's your first study. It's mainly for composition and understanding music.
If they want a third study then you have to pay extra for this. The first 2 studies are included in the fees.
Most children have one instrument at what they excel, but they aren't put off any instrument as long as they don't take it too seriously, as time dictates that first study is usually all they can manage.
if that makes sense.
The programme of study is individual to each child.

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