Safer schools issues guidance on furries in school

I'm not surprised by your answer. I imagine that like most things the women come to like furries via a different route from the men and have completely different reasons, in the main, for embracing the culture.

I'm going to say from your description of the men's requests I hope a windfall from some where lands in your lap soon to save you from that.

I'm interested in the female ones though. Do they want you to do portraits like you would if they are in normal clothes? With them posing? Or do they want you to turn their favourite picture or pose into something otherworldly?

Ok that's enough internet for today. I need a bloody rest.

That was my comment. And to be honest, I had furry fetishists in my head, being led around with a spiked collars.

I didn't mean to malign the whole cosplay community.

But if one is talking furries and schools in the same sentence, to me, the fetish element is the first thing that should be addressed.

But what the children don't know is that later more than one of those nice puppies who's tail they were playing with earlier will remove it from his butthole and get off on the fact that he derived sexual pleasure earlier in the day from the six year old

It's because this ^ sort of thing is entirely unsurprising to me.

I used to go to conventions many moons ago. Its very easy to just see the innocent level. They are good fun. You get to meet your heroes off the tele and films. And as long as you don't let your kids stroke the other attendees and get them home before the sun goes down it's a good fun day and the kids are happy.

But people if they are taking their children to these things really need to be aware that anything that offers a disguise of appearance will always attract a higher than average percentage of perverts and child abusers.

Funnily enough, it largely depends on the sex/gender of the commissioners - Females tend to be more tame and way less fussy/nit picky/graphic.

Males you tend to have to gage if you want to work with them based on how they've written asking for/describing their idea and either write them off, or grin and bear it with a lot of venting to friends and a lot of mind bleach in the form of quintessentially british tiktoks :') ahahah

With that new context, omg 😲😲 holy spirit and again omg 😲😲

Convention's run on two levels. So basically two conventions in one. One innocent and wholesome the other more adult in nature.

For the most part, especially during the day, the innocent version is presented. But what the children don't know is that later more than one of those nice puppies who's tail they were playing with earlier will remove it from his butthole and get off on the fact that he derived sexual pleasure earlier in the day from the six year old who was stoking his back and pulling on his tail.

I'd prefer the kids aren't innocent victims of that man's fetish.

And like men saying they are women we don't know the innocent furry from the sexual fetish furry so all children should be kept away from all of them in my opinion.

Any hobby that's open to all, is always at risk, therefore all people should be taught that no one can be truly trusted no matter who they are or seem to be.

Could you also make the argument that encompasses the entire cosplay industry with your perspectives ?

To gauge whether I actually want to know do you need to have a long very hot shower with a scrubbing brush after or is it the more tame end of the market?

It would make my job interesting ...
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@Hawkins003 Do you think a community which is, by its very nature, appealing to children and has a fetish/sexual element to it is more or less likely to attract peadophiles? Schools need to be aware that any child demonstrating a furry connection could well have been groomed online. We know this is happening. It has nothing to do with adults enjoying their hobby.

Idk if anyone's interested but I've been a furry artist for the last 10 years of my life (On an off for the last three simply because of real life getting in the way)

Doing art commissions for people online etc - If anyone has any questions I'm happy to answer where I can! :)

To answer this person's question.

"I mean, seriously, what would an adult community, largely made up of men, be dressing up as cats and dogs and in furry costumes for exactly?"

That's when I said about people that dress up for the comic cons, and other expos, that fans attend and dress up in various costumes etc

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thank you @chilling19 - his dismissal of concerns and defensive stance is a safeguarding concern in itself. He should know this.

2falls - just checked the Twitter thread with Gamble. I find it concerning that despite his credentials in this field, he dismissed your comments as irrelevant, like your organisation is some Johnny come lately who know nothing. He should be up to date with your work at the very least, and preferably, be consulting with SSA as an expert in this area.

Thank you for all the work you do.

Gamble - wind your male arrogance in and realise that SSA have been on the front line of child safeguarding for quite some time. You may even learn something.

@Datun he linked to a report which said it is sexual. Read his twitter conversation with us. Very concerning. I’m

So why are you commenting? Many Kids are attracted to furry communities where they often get groomed online and get exposed to extreme sexual content. We know this as fact..It does not matter that some adults like cosplay and dressing up. This has nothing to do with anything. .

I freely admit that I'm often baffled to the point of incredulity over some peoples hobbies 🙂 But I take it on board that dressing up as a furry can be entirely innocent for some people.

My point being that I know full well that there is frequently a sexual element to it. It's not as though it's a secret. This man saying there is no evidence is wrong.

So either he doesn't realise, in which case he should not be in a position of advising schools about child protection.

Or he does realise, and should not be in a position of advising schools about child protection.

Honestly, I'm sick to death of hearing of the never-ending and creative ways that men find to access children.

To be honest I have no previous knowledge on the whole furries culture, other than the outfits at comic cons.

The research Safer Schools points to makes it very clear that there is strong sexual element to furries. furscience.com/research-findings/  and yet Jim Gamble claims it is not sexual. He can't have it both ways. If it's sexual and attractive to children then it is a safeguarding risk, it does not mean anyone who is a furry is a risk to children but tbe whole community is flying a red flag. Schools and parents need to be aware of this.

It does not matter what consenting adults get up to in their spare time. The point is that the very nature of the furry fandom will attract children. Often ASD children who already feel isolated at school. And any community which attracts children. will also attract people who wish to harm children. Safeguarding does not exist to validate, support or explain adults choices. It exists to protect children. Anyone who equates worrying about the influence of who furries with moral panic needs a very quick wake up call.

Of course. But it's interesting, that someone like me, who is not particularly interested in comic con etc, is fully aware that furries frequently have a sexual element. Maybe not all the time, hobbies are diverse. But that's not really the point.

The point is that the people supplying the advice for children claim there is no evidence of a sexual connection.

Why would they say that?

Then stuck in the middle

I'm going to be honest the title on this thread is one that never in a month of Sunday's could I have ever imagined one day having to read.

But here we are.

Furries to the left of me Ferries to the right of me!