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MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/11/2023 15:43

Here you are @Rainyskies & all other parents having to challenge this bullshit in schools, piece by piece. The parent in this thread made a small step in pushing back biological nonsense in their child's school.
We just all have to do this:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4934614-a-small-victory-sex-ed-in-scottish-schools

A small victory- sex ed in Scottish schools | Mumsnet

Last year my DD came home from school having had her first sex ed lesson. 'Some girls don't get periods' she said, cheerfully. 'So I might not get th...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4934614-a-small-victory-sex-ed-in-scottish-schools

Saschka · 03/11/2023 09:37

Faffertea · 29/04/2023 08:37

If it’s not a sexual thing why are they at Pride events?

I think it is a spectrum? I have no idea what proportion of them just really like unicorns, and what proportion of them are perverts.

Obviously the perverts should be nowhere near a school, and I am struggling to see why anyone who just really likes unicorns, sonic the hedgehog or cats needs to be able to express that in school when goths etc can’t. So I have no issue whatsoever with schools knocking this on the head. But not every single person in a cat costume is a fetishist. Look at ComicCon. Some people just like dressing up.

MishyJDI · 03/11/2023 09:29

Ah see the story is from April. Well give them that one....

MishyJDI · 03/11/2023 09:28

Another completely "non article" by the Daily Fail, where it admits that previous stories about kids identifying as cats was a hoax and it can give no examples of furies turning up to the school gate!

Must be Friday and a slow news day, but will ensure those pearl clutches out there get triggered further. Oh Lordy Lord!

Daily Mail by now is like the Nation Enquirer surely - hardly a place I would go for actual news facts.

Surely other things in the world more important? Oh no! Lols. Thanks for the share!

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/11/2023 23:12

Rainyskies · 02/11/2023 22:18

She said it was on a PowerPoint slide - so was not just something that came up in class discussion.

I need to think carefully how I word my email.

That's depressing - but makes it clear that the school are teaching contested gender ideology to 11 year olds. 😡

RealFeminist · 02/11/2023 22:25

Geezo.

Rainyskies · 02/11/2023 22:18

She said it was on a PowerPoint slide - so was not just something that came up in class discussion.

I need to think carefully how I word my email.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/11/2023 22:09

Rainyskies · 02/11/2023 21:57

I’m aware this thread is a bit old but haven’t found anything more recent.

My DD in Y7 came home asking about furries, as it was mentioned in a PSHE presentation in lesson. So am wondering now exactly what guidance her school is following and if I should ask for more information about how they are teaching this to them.

Yes you should ask - and well done for being concerned. . You could have a look at their website - check whether the school is a Stonewall Champion or has lots of mentions of gender ideology - that will give you a clue whether this is a major concern or just a small issue.

The government has told schools that they must share details of what's taught in Ses Relationships education so they should be quite willing to explain.
It may be an innocent question from a child that led to a discussion - or might be that she's being taught all the 100 genders nonsense with a programme that's been outsourced to one of the dodgy organisations.

Safe Schools Alliance is always a useful resource with lots of advice about how to talk to schools:
https://safeschoolsallianceuk.net/

Homepage - Safe Schools Alliance UK

Welcome to our homepage. This explains who we are, what we do and how we are campaigning for a better understanding of child safeguarding.

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Rainyskies · 02/11/2023 21:57

I’m aware this thread is a bit old but haven’t found anything more recent.

My DD in Y7 came home asking about furries, as it was mentioned in a PSHE presentation in lesson. So am wondering now exactly what guidance her school is following and if I should ask for more information about how they are teaching this to them.

FrancescaContini · 30/04/2023 08:31

Pluvia · 29/04/2023 19:47

A friend whose 18-year-old lesbian daughter attended Swansea Mini-Pride today has reported that her daughter returned home after only 15 minutes. The daughter was mobbed — her word — by furries and found the whole thing scary. She had no idea whether it was men or women in the outfits and was creeped out by it. When she pushed one of them away firmly and said no, a couple of women passing by said that there was no need to be like that. She got out of there as quickly as she could.

That poor young woman. And as for the passers-by: the age old “don’t be a nasty girl, he’s only being nice to you” 🤮

Well done for her saying NO, though.

Pluvia · 29/04/2023 20:03

The people at Disneyworld are, I presume, employees and have had security checks and training. Disney will be anxious that nothing bad happens. At public events no one's checking.

Not a parent, but I would want my child to steer clear of furries and people in character costumes.

dcbc1234 · 29/04/2023 19:53

Having seen that photo above, it looks very similar (although on balance scarier) to photos you see of children at Disneyland Paris interacting with 'Disney characters'.
Is there a distinction to make, if we want our children to have healthy boundaries when they grow up?

Pluvia · 29/04/2023 19:50

If there are furries at pride it is because they identify as gay/bi/etc but they aren't there because they are a furry

And how would anyone know this? Anyone can say they identify as LGB and put on an animal suit and go and grab passers-by for hugs and a bit of frottage.

Pluvia · 29/04/2023 19:47

A friend whose 18-year-old lesbian daughter attended Swansea Mini-Pride today has reported that her daughter returned home after only 15 minutes. The daughter was mobbed — her word — by furries and found the whole thing scary. She had no idea whether it was men or women in the outfits and was creeped out by it. When she pushed one of them away firmly and said no, a couple of women passing by said that there was no need to be like that. She got out of there as quickly as she could.

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2023 19:39

Flowerly · 29/04/2023 19:30

Indeed. But apparently we cannot point this out.

And i thought it was bad that we got deleted on another thread for daring to talk about cake.

Neither of the deletions that have just happened are warranted in my opinion. Both are truthful in their same conclusion of this issue of furries at pride.

Flowerly · 29/04/2023 19:36

So let me get this right MNHQ. There must be no link made to furries and sexual fetishes on this thread? They are distinct from one another?

Another sacred caste of men.

Flowerly · 29/04/2023 19:30

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Indeed. But apparently we cannot point this out.

Flowerly · 29/04/2023 19:29

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Sunnava · 29/04/2023 19:20

^ That was in reply to @GCSunnyside23

Sunnava · 29/04/2023 19:19

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Flowerly · 29/04/2023 19:00

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Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2023 18:59

2fallsfromSSA · 29/04/2023 18:56

There is more knowledge about safeguarding on this thread that there appears to be in society at the moment. It is almost like there has been a deliberate and systematic attempt at dismantling it....

I know right!

Seriously cannot believe how many people have let this all slip under the radar under a sheen of be kind, be nice, shut up and do what the predator of little children tells you.

Flowerly · 29/04/2023 18:58

dimorphism · 29/04/2023 17:45

Yes agree @Flowerly I obviously wasn't being clear. What I was trying to say is that if safeguarding is working effectively then it doesn't require in depth detailed information about the details of a fetish / craze.

Part of the point of robust safeguarding frameworks (which the statutory guidance and legislation is supposed to provide) is that no-one is above suspicion and it's not possible to have a group that's exempt. Of course, you're right, it's not working at all well in many schools which is why some of them are encouraging children to keep secrets from their parents and transing them in school etc. But part of the point of safeguarding is supposed to be acknowledging that paedophiles will go to extraordinary lengths to access children, which is why robust frameworks are necessary, but that knowledge seems to have been lost and so many adults are putting the validation of adults and ideology above kids safety. It's so worrying.

Completely agree. Apologies I think I got the wrong end of the stick!

2fallsfromSSA · 29/04/2023 18:56

There is more knowledge about safeguarding on this thread that there appears to be in society at the moment. It is almost like there has been a deliberate and systematic attempt at dismantling it....

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2023 18:20

SpicyMoth · 29/04/2023 18:11

"I can imagine that the male ones do not have quite the same wholesome cutsie vibe!"

They most definitely do not @Boiledbeetle 😭

I feel the urge to hug you whilst going there there never mind it will be OK!I

Grim!!!