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Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4

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fromorbit · 06/10/2026 06:23

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 20:39

We are going to need at least another 40 pages about this shit show of an anti-Semitic woman hating party...

We started these threads back in May 2025. It keeps getting worse.

You know when you watch a drama and it starts by being comic, then gets darker and darker. The threads started with the rise of Zack Polanski aka Hypno Boobs, Water Titty, ZPy before he became leader watching as he got elected in September 2, 2025.

The Hypnoboobs scandal was of course kind of funny, but what was very revealing was his attempt to paint it as a plot by the media against him. It was gradually revealed he used the drama to his advantage to advertise his business and he did claim to have weird powers over boobs from BBC footage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

It wasn't just he lied. humans and especially politicians do that. It is rather he refused to take responsibility, and ducked out. He has kept doing it again and again. Exaggerations and lies over claiming support from charities, ducking out of paying taxes, talking over women saying they don't deserve sports or any spaces, about why he swapped from Lib Dem to being Green . It is all very similar to the way many behave particularly blokes from other political parties.

Now the crazy anti Semitism within the party has been growing and ZP has failed to stop it. He did try to block it behind the scenes, but was very reluctant to face it head on. This cumulated in the Greens Conference 2006, when ZP failed to fight against the racist anti-Zionist motion in person. Instead he went to campaign in London for the byelection. Meanwhile guess what the fight back was lead mostly by 4 of the 5 Green MPs, mostly women.

Looking back at the last thread the horror is everything we predicted has come to pass. This is what headed the last thread in May 2006.
Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of anti-Semitic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.
The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power.

The October Conference 2026 was as dark as predicted. The racism was crazy. They banned the words mum and dad. Apparently women have to dress modestly to win Muslim votes. Not only was Green's Women's Declaration banned, but some Greens have now decided that women's biology is so icky they protest talks about it.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16181937/Trans-Green-women-event-female-health.html

Besides ZPy, we also have documented Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it. He has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and one look at his wife shows what he thinks about women. He is also a landlord in a party which is supposedly anti landlord. Ali has been very loud talking about how bad racism is, but also loves being racist.

The other deputy leader Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounded like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. She also is a landlord as well, or rather her partner is. Yet she is the least crazy when violence and racism is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

All of these people are up for re-election in 2027. The drama will be epic.

The media is paying increasing attention to what Mumsnet have been noting for ages. Mumsnet was there during the Challenor scandal which showed how awful the Greens anti-women rhetoric could be.

The Greens control Bristol where they face legal action from women for trying to silence them
https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/governance/396-governance-news/99477-gender-critical-campaigners-launch-judicial-review-proceedings-over-council-chamber-ban

Their sexist nonsense has also raised protests in Hackney under the control of Zoe Garbbett with effigies of Andy Burnham being burned.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5527195-zoe-garbett-green-mayor-for-hackney?page=1

Women being silenced in Green controlled Haringey
https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-activists-heckle-abuse-labour-councillor

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ continues and they are now taking the Greens to court for banning them from the conference twice for being women. The court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal May 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Third thread - the run up to the Greens Conference in October 2026
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5524462-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-3

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist/racist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Zack Polanski, in white open necked shirt and dark jacket, addresses a Green Party rally, with microphone in hand

Zack Polanski stood by breast enlargment hypnosis claim

A newly unearthed interview from 2013 casts doubt on the Green Party leader's claim to have apologised.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/10/2026 12:50

Lalgarh · 10/10/2026 12:14

They didn't try to take it over they've actually done it.

It was Ellie Chowns' turn to go in the radio this morning and repeatedly refuse to answer "does Israel have a right to exist?". Using all the politicians toolkit of "I will answer this question that I have in my head instead of the one I've just been asked". Except sounding like an earnest 6th former

I agree, but the article is very interesting.

Lalgarh · 10/10/2026 12:14

They didn't try to take it over they've actually done it.

It was Ellie Chowns' turn to go in the radio this morning and repeatedly refuse to answer "does Israel have a right to exist?". Using all the politicians toolkit of "I will answer this question that I have in my head instead of the one I've just been asked". Except sounding like an earnest 6th former

PachacutisBadAuntie · 10/10/2026 11:18

'How pro-Palestine activists tried to take over the Green Party
Suspended members have expressed outrage after an organised campaign to recruit Greens and influence policy can be revealed from hours of recordings'
https://www.thetimes.com/article/0db06867-67f1-4390-b006-e48a4dbb6274?shareToken=f474fbf29c76f95de9016dcfa936637f&ver=article

Verifying Device

https://www.thetimes.com/article/0db06867-67f1-4390-b006-e48a4dbb6274?shareToken=f474fbf29c76f95de9016dcfa936637f&ver=article

borntobequiet · 10/10/2026 10:45

Judging by the Greens I know, it will take far too long for them to realise this.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 10/10/2026 10:43

highame · 10/10/2026 09:10

I think it's going to be very hard for the Greens to put things right. From a membership of 80,000, they now have a membership of around 200,000 all joining around the time of ZP. The newcomers are from the old hard left Labour who were drummed out by Keir Starmer. They have a plan and they are well organised. I really don't see how the original Green party will be able to regain control with those numbers.

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It's up to the 80,000 true Greens to recognise what's happened to their party and leave in their droves, or be a party to the hate, bigotry and general loathsomeness that the Greens now are.

ArabellaScott · 10/10/2026 10:37

RedToothBrush · 08/10/2026 18:15

Celine Imart AT Celineimart
translated from French

It’s done. And it’s historic.
The European Parliament has just adopted my resolution against Islamist entryism and the networks of the Muslim Brotherhood.

I’ve broken a taboo that Europe has been dragging around like a chain: this victory signifies a major doctrinal shift in the institutions.

Proud to have carried this text through to the end. Thank you to the negotiators from the other groups with whom I had the pleasure of working—excluding the socialists and the far left, who boycotted the text. We were able to transcend partisan divides on a major issue for our societies and our youth.

Interesting.

Link to motion.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/CRE-10-2026-10-07-INT-2017098145541_FR.html

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/10/2026 09:42

highame · 10/10/2026 09:10

I think it's going to be very hard for the Greens to put things right. From a membership of 80,000, they now have a membership of around 200,000 all joining around the time of ZP. The newcomers are from the old hard left Labour who were drummed out by Keir Starmer. They have a plan and they are well organised. I really don't see how the original Green party will be able to regain control with those numbers.

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The fault line will be hardline Gaza and Islamist entryists like Speitan v LGBTQ supporting Labour left entryists (disillusioned by Labour accepting the SC judgment). There’s a sort of uneasy alliance under Polanski I think to focus on “left issues”. I doubt it will hold if significant numbers of Islamists join the party.

We’ve already seen the risible attempt to claim that colonialism is responsible for “queerphobia” in Islamic societies.

highame · 10/10/2026 09:10

fromorbit · 10/10/2026 07:25

Media coverage continues to with lots of speculation about the crisis in the Greens and Zpys leadership.

With all the talk of a fightback it looks like the Spring Green conference in March 2027 will see attempts to amend/overule the antizionism motion and possibly enact measures against entryism. It is held online so both sides could send supporters in easily and cheaply.

Likely to be complete chaos as we will six months in the lead up with the crisis festering. I suspect also that we will see leading anti-zionists suspended for racism at some point as that seems to be a favoured tactic in Green drama. Given ,any are very racist it is an easy thing to do.

I think it's going to be very hard for the Greens to put things right. From a membership of 80,000, they now have a membership of around 200,000 all joining around the time of ZP. The newcomers are from the old hard left Labour who were drummed out by Keir Starmer. They have a plan and they are well organised. I really don't see how the original Green party will be able to regain control with those numbers.

RedToothBrush · 10/10/2026 08:41

This is spot on. No one in the Green Party leadership will go near an answer.

Hadley Freeman: “Does Israel have the right to exist?” is the new “What is a woman?”

RedToothBrush · 10/10/2026 08:14

Kevin Foster resigns from Green Party, saying “I have not left the Green Party, they have left me”

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/north-yorkshire-councillor-quits-green-party-saying-the-party-has-left-me-9275949

nicepotoftea · 10/10/2026 07:42

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2026 22:29

Trump has said it would be 'a small price to pay' if San Diego and Los Angeles were taken out.

He's also said about people in Minnesota 'dealing' with Somalis living there.

And that's just this week.

So I think American politics are a whole different level of madness to British politics.

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I’m thinking particularly of Lubna Speitan’s rhetoric. Thankfully, though, she isn’t the current Secretary of State for Defence.

nicepotoftea · 10/10/2026 07:29

DrBlackbird · 09/10/2026 22:47

Thick as bloody mince…imo. Good god.

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By conflating colonialism with genocide she just demonstrates that she doesn’t understand what words mean.

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fromorbit · 10/10/2026 07:25

Media coverage continues to with lots of speculation about the crisis in the Greens and Zpys leadership.

With all the talk of a fightback it looks like the Spring Green conference in March 2027 will see attempts to amend/overule the antizionism motion and possibly enact measures against entryism. It is held online so both sides could send supporters in easily and cheaply.

Likely to be complete chaos as we will six months in the lead up with the crisis festering. I suspect also that we will see leading anti-zionists suspended for racism at some point as that seems to be a favoured tactic in Green drama. Given ,any are very racist it is an easy thing to do.

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ThreeDeafMice · 10/10/2026 00:05

ArabellaScott · 09/10/2026 23:14

I think its similar to Zack's genius economic solution, which is to just tax all the rich people.

He likes easy wins and cant be fussed having to debate things or faff about with the boring bits. All gain and glory and none of the tedious slogging or time consuming thinking.

Hypnosis for bigger breasts may seem absurd, but I think it probably belies the deep seated laziness of his thinking. If you want something hard enough you bloody well ought to get it.

'Make it so!'

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Has he advised dysphoric female teenagers to will themselves to grow a penis, or to shrink their breasts with the power of thought?

Don't hesistate to chide me if that question is out of line, please.

ArabellaScott · 09/10/2026 23:14

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 09/10/2026 20:04

What kind of person does this? Sees a slow motion car crash develop in advance (he knew that the aborted Zionism Is Racism motion from last time was going to be debated again, and very likely passed) and both does nothing to placate it, and then absolves all responsibility by running away when the vote was taken.
It's normal behaviour for a young kid to run away from an argument, it isn't for a grown man in such a position of responsibility.

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I think its similar to Zack's genius economic solution, which is to just tax all the rich people.

He likes easy wins and cant be fussed having to debate things or faff about with the boring bits. All gain and glory and none of the tedious slogging or time consuming thinking.

Hypnosis for bigger breasts may seem absurd, but I think it probably belies the deep seated laziness of his thinking. If you want something hard enough you bloody well ought to get it.

'Make it so!'

DrBlackbird · 09/10/2026 22:47

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2026 16:18

https://x.com/treesey/status/2108522884075335859
Teresa Smith AT treesey
Here’s Halima Brewer speaking in February.
Now sitting on the Green Party disciplinary committee as of last weekend. (Per @sophiealichurch)
“The Holocaust was real…but it’s not particularly special…”

Thick as bloody mince…imo. Good god.

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2026 22:29

nicepotoftea · 09/10/2026 18:37

No, but I think Pete Hegseth might have?

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Trump has said it would be 'a small price to pay' if San Diego and Los Angeles were taken out.

He's also said about people in Minnesota 'dealing' with Somalis living there.

And that's just this week.

So I think American politics are a whole different level of madness to British politics.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 09/10/2026 20:04

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2026 18:22

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/zack-polanski-friend-coward-resign_uk_6ac8e1f7e4b09d2661d7275e?1h

What kind of person does this? Sees a slow motion car crash develop in advance (he knew that the aborted Zionism Is Racism motion from last time was going to be debated again, and very likely passed) and both does nothing to placate it, and then absolves all responsibility by running away when the vote was taken.
It's normal behaviour for a young kid to run away from an argument, it isn't for a grown man in such a position of responsibility.

inkymoose · 09/10/2026 19:30

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2026 08:50

Entryism is when a group of outsiders join an existing political party on mass at the same time and effectively hijack it and destroy it's previous goals and change it to their own.

Many of the newcomers who were kicked from the Labour party for anti-Semitism.

Lubna Speitan is on camera explicitly stating she only joined the party to further her agenda on enabling anti-Semitism to give it credibility and establish it as legitimate.

Mothin Ali is highly likely to become the next leader and change the aims and objectives of the party from an environmental focused party to the Islamic party of England and Wales after initially pretending to be the Identity Politics party.

The Green Party is dead.

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sad but true

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nicepotoftea · 09/10/2026 18:37

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2026 18:27

I honestly don't think Farage has gone and said out loud stuff to the level some of the Greens have come out with in the last week.

No, but I think Pete Hegseth might have?

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2026 18:27

I honestly don't think Farage has gone and said out loud stuff to the level some of the Greens have come out with in the last week.

Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4