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Secondary School complaint about mixed sex changing rooms. Update, school response and request for help writing the escalated complaint to governors

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TangenitalContrivance · 05/04/2025 16:56

Hello everyone. Some may remember I asked for help with a complaint to my daughter’s secondary school in Brighton which allows Males into female changing spaces. Including swimming, without informing either children or parents.

this is clearly a safeguarding issue, borderline illegal and must not be allowed to stand.

I’m going to have to take the whole thing through a governors complaint and even higher, which I am willing to do.

please, if you can, could you read my complaint and the schools subsequent response and give me pointers for what to say in my follow up.

feel free to use the original complaint at your own school. You will be surprised how many are doing this!

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moto748e · 29/04/2025 23:34

MrsOvertonsWindow · 29/04/2025 21:34

Posting this here for information. A powerful summary from Transgender Trend about the implications for schools of the SC judgment. It exposes the appalling discrimination against girls in schools and the complete failure of the education establishment to safeguard children.
Well worth a read and may be of some use to the OP down the line:

https://www.transgendertrend.com/uk-supreme-court-judgment-schools/

I thought that was one hell of a piece. Wake up and follow the bloody law!

SinnerBoy · 29/04/2025 22:16

Well done, TangenitalContrivance, I admire* *your tenacity! If, in the entirely likely event that the wheels come of for them, none of them will ever be able to say that they didn't know.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 29/04/2025 21:34

Posting this here for information. A powerful summary from Transgender Trend about the implications for schools of the SC judgment. It exposes the appalling discrimination against girls in schools and the complete failure of the education establishment to safeguard children.
Well worth a read and may be of some use to the OP down the line:

https://www.transgendertrend.com/uk-supreme-court-judgment-schools/

UK Supreme Court judgment - what does it mean for schools? - Transgender Trend

The UK Supreme Court judgment that sex means biological sex, how does this impact on schools and school policies?

https://www.transgendertrend.com/uk-supreme-court-judgment-schools

thenoisiesttermagant · 29/04/2025 17:49

TangenitalContrivance · 29/04/2025 16:29

You must be very bored of my email updates, however. I am sending this back:

Subject: Immediate Action Required – EHRC Interim Guidance and Safeguarding Obligations

Dear xxxxx, and Members of the Governing Body,

Thank you for acknowledging receipt of my previous email regarding the EHRC’s interim update on the practical implications of the Supreme Court’s ruling.

For absolute clarity: this escalation does not replace or supersede my existing Stage 2 complaint, which must continue independently. Rather, this concerns a separate, urgent safeguarding and legal compliance issue that demands immediate attention.

As Governors and school leaders, you are fully aware of your statutory obligations under the Education Act 2002, the Equality Act 2010, and Keeping Children Safe in Education (KCSIE) 2024. These duties are continuous and are not suspended by ongoing complaints processes.

In light of those duties, I must formally escalate the following concerns:

  • Safeguarding and compliance issues must be addressed immediately. They cannot be deferred pending the outcome of a complaints procedure.
  • The full Governing Body and Senior Leadership Team are jointly responsible for ensuring legal compliance and safeguarding at all times.
  • The EHRC’s interim guidance removes all ambiguity. Single-sex facilities must be based on biological sex, not gender identity.
  • No assurance has been provided that the school is now compliant with this statutory requirement.
  • No confirmation has been given that the school’s insurers have been notified of the risk of legal liability arising from any continued non-compliance.
  • The suggestion that Governors must remain unaware of updated legal obligations is untenable. It is wholly appropriate — and indeed essential — that all Governors are aware of their legal duties and of immediate risks to pupils.

The EHRC states unambiguously:

“Schools must provide separate single-sex toilets for boys and girls over the age of 8. It is also compulsory for them to provide single-sex changing facilities for boys and girls over the age of 11.
Pupils who identify as trans girls (biological boys) should not be permitted to use the girls’ toilet or changing facilities, and pupils who identify as trans boys (biological girls) should not be permitted to use the boys’ toilet or changing facilities. Suitable alternative provisions may be required.”

It is clear that urgent remedial action is required.

Accordingly, I now formally request that the Governing Body and Senior Leadership Team:

  1. Immediately review and update all relevant school policies to ensure full compliance with the EHRC interim guidance and the Supreme Court ruling.
  2. Provide formal written confirmation that xxxxxSchool will implement the required changes without delay.
  3. Confirm that the school’s insurers have been notified of the potential liabilities arising from any non-compliance.
  4. Confirm that the Chair of Governors and Safeguarding Governor have personally reviewed this issue and are satisfied that immediate safeguarding risks are being appropriately managed.

If the school is unwilling or unable to provide these assurances, I will have no alternative but to escalate these concerns to the Department for Education, Ofsted, the EHRC, and any other relevant safeguarding authorities.

Please confirm receipt of this escalation and provide a prompt written response.

Yours sincerely,
xxxx
Father of two pupils at xxx School

This is really good.

You're absolutely right. Saying they have to wait for some long winded complaints process before responding to a safeguarding concern is really concerning.

TheOtherRaven · 29/04/2025 17:45

Well done OP.

Your point about insurers is particularly key. It's ridiculous, schools would be absolutely liable now without a leg to stand on if any incident arises.

Needspaceforlego · 29/04/2025 16:53

moto748e · 29/04/2025 16:33

Great work, OP! 💪

(it took me ages on MN to figure out why people kept posting that odd yellow swan!}

Good work agreed.

(If you want a laugh on the 'swan' someone mentioned on here opening it on its side, from her boss, and wondered why she'd been sent a 'willy' )

EweSurname · 29/04/2025 16:36

You are doing sterling work OP. Well done for not allowing them to fob you off

moto748e · 29/04/2025 16:33

Great work, OP! 💪

(it took me ages on MN to figure out why people kept posting that odd yellow swan!}

TangenitalContrivance · 29/04/2025 16:29

You must be very bored of my email updates, however. I am sending this back:

Subject: Immediate Action Required – EHRC Interim Guidance and Safeguarding Obligations

Dear xxxxx, and Members of the Governing Body,

Thank you for acknowledging receipt of my previous email regarding the EHRC’s interim update on the practical implications of the Supreme Court’s ruling.

For absolute clarity: this escalation does not replace or supersede my existing Stage 2 complaint, which must continue independently. Rather, this concerns a separate, urgent safeguarding and legal compliance issue that demands immediate attention.

As Governors and school leaders, you are fully aware of your statutory obligations under the Education Act 2002, the Equality Act 2010, and Keeping Children Safe in Education (KCSIE) 2024. These duties are continuous and are not suspended by ongoing complaints processes.

In light of those duties, I must formally escalate the following concerns:

  • Safeguarding and compliance issues must be addressed immediately. They cannot be deferred pending the outcome of a complaints procedure.
  • The full Governing Body and Senior Leadership Team are jointly responsible for ensuring legal compliance and safeguarding at all times.
  • The EHRC’s interim guidance removes all ambiguity. Single-sex facilities must be based on biological sex, not gender identity.
  • No assurance has been provided that the school is now compliant with this statutory requirement.
  • No confirmation has been given that the school’s insurers have been notified of the risk of legal liability arising from any continued non-compliance.
  • The suggestion that Governors must remain unaware of updated legal obligations is untenable. It is wholly appropriate — and indeed essential — that all Governors are aware of their legal duties and of immediate risks to pupils.

The EHRC states unambiguously:

“Schools must provide separate single-sex toilets for boys and girls over the age of 8. It is also compulsory for them to provide single-sex changing facilities for boys and girls over the age of 11.
Pupils who identify as trans girls (biological boys) should not be permitted to use the girls’ toilet or changing facilities, and pupils who identify as trans boys (biological girls) should not be permitted to use the boys’ toilet or changing facilities. Suitable alternative provisions may be required.”

It is clear that urgent remedial action is required.

Accordingly, I now formally request that the Governing Body and Senior Leadership Team:

  1. Immediately review and update all relevant school policies to ensure full compliance with the EHRC interim guidance and the Supreme Court ruling.
  2. Provide formal written confirmation that xxxxxSchool will implement the required changes without delay.
  3. Confirm that the school’s insurers have been notified of the potential liabilities arising from any non-compliance.
  4. Confirm that the Chair of Governors and Safeguarding Governor have personally reviewed this issue and are satisfied that immediate safeguarding risks are being appropriately managed.

If the school is unwilling or unable to provide these assurances, I will have no alternative but to escalate these concerns to the Department for Education, Ofsted, the EHRC, and any other relevant safeguarding authorities.

Please confirm receipt of this escalation and provide a prompt written response.

Yours sincerely,
xxxx
Father of two pupils at xxx School

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TangenitalContrivance · 29/04/2025 16:10

TangenitalContrivance · 27/04/2025 11:14

Email to school today:

Subject: Immediate Update Required Following EHRC Interim Guidance on Supreme Court Ruling

Dear xxxx, and Members of the Senior Leadership Team and Governing Body,

I am writing to you urgently following the Equality and Human Rights Commission's (EHRC) interim update issued on 24 April 2025 regarding the practical implications of the recent UK Supreme Court judgment on the definition of "sex" under the Equality Act 2010.

The EHRC, being the authoritative body on equality law in the United Kingdom, has issued exceptionally clear and decisive interim guidance. I expect xxx School, as a public authority subject to the Equality Act, to comply with this guidance without delay.

The key passage from the EHRC update states:

> "Schools must provide separate single-sex toilets for boys and girls over the age of 8. It is also compulsory for them to provide single-sex changing facilities for boys and girls over the age of 11.

> Pupils who identify as trans girls (biological boys) should not be permitted to use the girls’ toilet or changing facilities, and pupils who identify as trans boys (biological girls) should not be permitted to use the boys’ toilet or changing facilities. Suitable alternative provisions may be required."

This now removes any ambiguity or discretion. The EHRC's position is fully aligned with the Supreme Court's ruling: single-sex facilities must be based on biological sex, not gender identity.

Accordingly:

  • Biological males must not be permitted to use female changing rooms, toilets, or any other spaces designated for females.
  • Biological females must not be permitted to use male changing rooms, toilets, or spaces designated for males.
  • Suitable private alternatives may be arranged where necessary.

Given the gravity and clarity of this updated national guidance, I now formally ask the entire senior leadership team and the governors:

  1. To immediately review all school policies and practices related to toilets, changing rooms, showers, overnight accommodations, and similar facilities to ensure they comply fully with the EHRC interim guidance.
  2. To confirm in writing, without delay, that xxx School will comply with this interim guidance in full.
  3. To confirm that all staff will be updated and trained accordingly as a matter of urgency.

It is vital to underline that liability for any breaches in these safeguarding and equality duties will rest with the school leadership and the governing body personally, not with the local authority.

The EHRC is the statutory expert body on equality law. Its analysis is beyond reproach. Any failure to immediately align school practice with this binding guidance would constitute a very serious safeguarding, legal, and governance failure.

I trust you will treat this matter with the utmost seriousness it demands. Please confirm your position urgently.

For clarity, my original Stage 2 complaint continues to stand and should proceed fully through the complaints process as expected. However, this EHRC interim guidance demands immediate separate action by the school leadership to ensure full and urgent compliance with national statutory law.

Yours sincerely,

xxxx
Father of two pupils at xxxxx School

Edited

UPDATE:

Chair of governors has refused to pass this on to all the governors as:

"As your concerns form part of an outstanding formal complaint currently being progressed under the school’s complaints procedure, it would be inappropriate to circulate the content of your email to all governors at this time. The panel of governors assigned to review your complaint must remain impartial and have no prior knowledge of the matters raised, in order to preserve the integrity and fairness of the process."

I am thinking to respond covering the following points: Please add any you think I should include?

They treated urgent safeguarding concerns as mere complaint issues
-Safeguarding risks must be acted on immediately, not buried in complaint handling.

They hid behind the Stage 2 complaints process
Governors’ safeguarding duties apply at all times, not only after complaints are heard.

They failed to confirm compliance with the law
-Exposes the school, governors, and SLT to serious legal liability for unlawful policies.

They ignored the request to notify insurers
-Suggests a lack of seriousness about risk management and safeguarding accountability.

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WarriorN · 29/04/2025 11:42

And age is a protected characteristic…

thenoisiesttermagant · 29/04/2025 11:11

Warrior and Bonfire are right - the Children's Act and Working Together are key as is Education Act. All underpin KCSIE

The comparison to FGM is really interesting - this is the sort of thing a really good legal opinion could look at.

The fact is, we don't treat children as mini adults in any other sphere except for gender woo, so exploring whether that's actually illegal or at very least bad practice in relation to all the safeguarding focused legislation and statutory guidance would be interesting.

Keeptoiletssafe · 29/04/2025 10:08

For 2023 there’s a new bit in the generic brief about a ‘private toilet identified as gender neutral’ on each floor I haven’t asked about whether this one has been risk assessed but I am betting it hasn’t. I have some ‘fun’ quotes from America which uses the same system the DfE has added. Spoiler: it doesn’t work.
It annoys me because all these rules and regs were put in for a reason, but the last few years they’ve just been thrown in the air!

TangenitalContrivance · 29/04/2025 10:07

Sent the email to the head, the head of safeguarding and the chair of governors asking them to circulate to everyone. Was easier than trying to guess emails.

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TangenitalContrivance · 29/04/2025 09:57

Keeptoiletssafe · 29/04/2025 09:47

Interestly I was going over the DfE school specific brief (building regs) and it was asking if the school were having single sex OR unisex toilets. Very odd wording but it maybe why some schools have ended up with unisex cubicles will a common hand sink. Also a bit of a problem for many schools now.

my secondary in question - has a large mixed sex toilet room and two single sex either end of the school.

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Keeptoiletssafe · 29/04/2025 09:47

Interestly I was going over the DfE school specific brief (building regs) and it was asking if the school were having single sex OR unisex toilets. Very odd wording but it maybe why some schools have ended up with unisex cubicles will a common hand sink. Also a bit of a problem for many schools now.

WarriorN · 29/04/2025 09:42

Yes that’s a concern

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 29/04/2025 09:38

WarriorN · 29/04/2025 09:09

yes that would be a ground breaking case.

unfortunately the kickback from the SR is distracting from the evidence in the Cass review.

I just hope the guidance for Gender questioning children comes out soon and kcsie is clearer.

if feels as if the SR ruling and the latest statement that all children referred to gender services will
be screened for autism is setting up a background against which the guidance could be firmed up. At the same time I can foresee ongoing issues and loopholes that could be exploited.

they need to address curriculum guidelines on this too

My next worry is the conversion therapy bill, tbh. There are already good ex-NHS therapists who have left the UK and are giving exploratory, non-affirming therapy remotely (not a patch on face-to-face, but needs must) because they were hounded out.

WarriorN · 29/04/2025 09:09

MrsOvertonsWindow · 29/04/2025 08:55

Indeed. That's my frustration. IANAL and I've no doubt that there's plenty of legal arguments on both sides. My frustration is that schools have accepted the whole nonsense and actually there's a whole set of competing issues - none of which has been legally explored by those who should be safeguarding children.

I also think, a bit like the Isla Bryson case, a court case where views that sex change for children must be prioritised over the need to safeguard them from an adult ideology would be a game changer. It would expose how schools and children have been cynically exploited by the trans lobby.

yes that would be a ground breaking case.

unfortunately the kickback from the SR is distracting from the evidence in the Cass review.

I just hope the guidance for Gender questioning children comes out soon and kcsie is clearer.

if feels as if the SR ruling and the latest statement that all children referred to gender services will
be screened for autism is setting up a background against which the guidance could be firmed up. At the same time I can foresee ongoing issues and loopholes that could be exploited.

they need to address curriculum guidelines on this too

WarriorN · 29/04/2025 09:06

TangenitalContrivance · 29/04/2025 08:34

Small update. School currently refusing to give me the email addresses of the senior leadership team individually. Am asking why not….

yes follow the complaints procedure to a T, do not deviate

MrsOvertonsWindow · 29/04/2025 08:55

WarriorN · 29/04/2025 08:18

It’s this situation where “protecting from discrimination and abuse” has become “I have more rights.”

Indeed. That's my frustration. IANAL and I've no doubt that there's plenty of legal arguments on both sides. My frustration is that schools have accepted the whole nonsense and actually there's a whole set of competing issues - none of which has been legally explored by those who should be safeguarding children.

I also think, a bit like the Isla Bryson case, a court case where views that sex change for children must be prioritised over the need to safeguard them from an adult ideology would be a game changer. It would expose how schools and children have been cynically exploited by the trans lobby.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 29/04/2025 08:48

TangenitalContrivance · 29/04/2025 08:34

Small update. School currently refusing to give me the email addresses of the senior leadership team individually. Am asking why not….

Are they not on the school's website?
I've no doubt they want to keep this under wraps but is it essential that every member of management is involved? If you're following the complaints procedure then maybe just stick to that at present? Some schools seem very trigger happy in labelling a parent a "vexatious complainant" and looking for an excuse to restrict responding to emails etc.
Frustrating as it is, if it's not a part of the complaints procedure maybe hold back for the moment?

TangenitalContrivance · 29/04/2025 08:34

Small update. School currently refusing to give me the email addresses of the senior leadership team individually. Am asking why not….

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WarriorN · 29/04/2025 08:18

It’s this situation where “protecting from discrimination and abuse” has become “I have more rights.”

WarriorN · 29/04/2025 08:15

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06787/

the EA is about discrimination. It evolved from the race relations act 1976 I understand (which Lisa Nandy’s father worked on.)

i dont know enough about the GRA other than it wasn’t designed to override women’s rights. It was basically a medical certificate as far as I can tell to confirm a medical diagnosis of GD to prevent discrimination and abuse. And then later the protected characteristic of TG

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