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Being a man was too much hard work, so I became a woman

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HashtagBlessedHashtagGrateful · 26/02/2025 12:57

Yep, it's a good old DM article I'm afraid.

Being a man was too much hard work, so I became a woman: Inside the transmaxxing trend where men swap gender to get 'female' benefits like cheaper car insurance, free meals and sex | Daily Mail Online

I've not started a post in this section before, so apologies but I saw the headline and thought it would be one to share. "Transmaxxing" is a thing in incel culture and I know has been discussed here before. So yeah, being a woman is also now meaning you have failed at being a man 😡

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JanesLittleGirl · 28/02/2025 23:05

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 28/02/2025 22:59

Cunnilingus. Literally means to lick the vulva.

Thanks. My autocarrot couldn't or wouldn't cope.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 28/02/2025 22:59

JanesLittleGirl · 28/02/2025 22:53

I have no evidence and this is purely a personal opinion but I suspect that a certain vocal social commentator would rather eat a lump of dog shit than perform cunilinguis. (What is the correct spelling of eating a woman out!)

Cunnilingus. Literally means to lick the vulva.

JanesLittleGirl · 28/02/2025 22:53

I have no evidence and this is purely a personal opinion but I suspect that a certain vocal social commentator would rather eat a lump of dog shit than perform cunilinguis. (What is the correct spelling of eating a woman out!)

Mrsbloggz · 28/02/2025 21:53

OldCrone · 28/02/2025 19:02

Owen Jones accused someone of homophobia when they asked him if he'd have sex with a transman with a vagina.

Another trans ally (forget who, but must have been a straight man) said:
"TWAW, except for relationship purposes."

Hypocrites, the lot of them.

indeed, they dont like it up 'em do they!

SionnachRuadh · 28/02/2025 21:33

If LOJ believes - and he does - that lesbians should be open to lady dick, then it's only reasonable to ask him his attitude towards man pussy.

If LOJ considers that a homophobic question, it's reasonable to assume that he believes gay men are entitled to sexual boundaries but lesbians aren't.

Lovelysummerdays · 28/02/2025 20:06

That article reads to me that pretending to be a straight man was really hard and fustrating. Now he’s essentially an effeminate gay man he feels happier. However due to internalised homophobia feels the need to trans away the gay.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 28/02/2025 19:45

OldCrone · 28/02/2025 19:42

I can't find the accusation of homophobia, but he refers to the incident in this column:

You don’t have to be trans to be an ally against transphobia | Owen Jones | The Guardian

When I wrote about trans rights earlier this year, I encountered one of the angriest and most determined backlashes against anything I have written. It did not come from knuckle-dragging bigots but from self-described radical feminists who are not, to say the least, inclusive of trans people. I was a misogynist; I was obsessively asked if I would perform cunnilingus on a trans man

And I found this tweet which is a reply to a Sarah Ditum tweet which seems to have been deleted:

Owen Jones on X: "@sarahditum But I've never said this to anyone. So what justification for asking a gay man to go and perform cunnilingus?" / X

"Do you, as a gay man, consider that TMAM for sexual purposes?" is an entirely legitimate question when lesbians are facing Cotton Ceiling tactics.

OldCrone · 28/02/2025 19:42

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 28/02/2025 19:04

Did someone keep the receipt for LOJ saying that?

I can't find the accusation of homophobia, but he refers to the incident in this column:

You don’t have to be trans to be an ally against transphobia | Owen Jones | The Guardian

When I wrote about trans rights earlier this year, I encountered one of the angriest and most determined backlashes against anything I have written. It did not come from knuckle-dragging bigots but from self-described radical feminists who are not, to say the least, inclusive of trans people. I was a misogynist; I was obsessively asked if I would perform cunnilingus on a trans man

And I found this tweet which is a reply to a Sarah Ditum tweet which seems to have been deleted:

Owen Jones on X: "@sarahditum But I've never said this to anyone. So what justification for asking a gay man to go and perform cunnilingus?" / X

Being a man was too much hard work, so I became a woman
selffellatingouroborosofhate · 28/02/2025 19:04

OldCrone · 28/02/2025 19:02

Owen Jones accused someone of homophobia when they asked him if he'd have sex with a transman with a vagina.

Another trans ally (forget who, but must have been a straight man) said:
"TWAW, except for relationship purposes."

Hypocrites, the lot of them.

Did someone keep the receipt for LOJ saying that?

OldCrone · 28/02/2025 19:02

Mrsbloggz · 28/02/2025 12:53

I wonder how many male trans allies are willing to 'put their money where their mouth is', so to speak?!

Owen Jones accused someone of homophobia when they asked him if he'd have sex with a transman with a vagina.

Another trans ally (forget who, but must have been a straight man) said:
"TWAW, except for relationship purposes."

Hypocrites, the lot of them.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 28/02/2025 18:42

SionnachRuadh · 28/02/2025 16:21

You might be okay with a gay man who is bi. But I also read of a transwoman upset because they thought that the bi man sleeping with them might have viewed them as a man, not a woman.

That pesky reality has to be denied not only all the time, but really convincingly!

It reminds me of those young straight women, who are addicted to a particular genre of Japanese porn, who claim to be men and pop up in online spaces complaining that their boyfriends don't see themselves as being in "queer" relationships.

There's a small subset of men, who mostly claim to be straight, who do have a sexual interest in transwomen. But they're explicit that this is a fetish, and they definitely don't see transwomen as being the same as biological females. You can deduce that from their keen interest in dick; I assume the female attire helps them tell themselves they're not doing anything too gay.

If you're a transwoman who very much wants to be validated as a woman, you don't want to sleep with those guys, but those guys may be the only guys who are interested in sleeping with you.

It's called Yaoi. I can confirm from personal experience that gay male porn, Japanese or not, will aggravate any feelings of dissatisfaction that a woman has with her female body and any desires she has to be male. And that includes "slash" fiction.

inkymoose · 28/02/2025 18:07

Mrsbloggz · 28/02/2025 12:03

These men who dress up as women in the hope that heterosexual men will want to have sex with them- they are men themselves and must know that heterosexual men are not sexually attracted to other men?!

You would think so, logically. But this isn't about logic, it's about some kind of fantasy world 🙄

DeanElderberry · 28/02/2025 16:49

It is disturbing that a generation of people in rich countries have been let grow up imagining that because becoming an adult and then living an adult life is indeed hard work, that they are owed a magic opt-out. There isn't one. That is the human condition, there is no alternative (other than death). If you have XX chromosomes (or a rare DSD variant) you will be a woman, XY chromosomes (or rare DSD) you will be a man.

No choice this side of the grave so suck it up.

You're let vote at 18. Start to strain towards adulthood by then at the latest, to earn that privilege.

SionnachRuadh · 28/02/2025 16:21

You might be okay with a gay man who is bi. But I also read of a transwoman upset because they thought that the bi man sleeping with them might have viewed them as a man, not a woman.

That pesky reality has to be denied not only all the time, but really convincingly!

It reminds me of those young straight women, who are addicted to a particular genre of Japanese porn, who claim to be men and pop up in online spaces complaining that their boyfriends don't see themselves as being in "queer" relationships.

There's a small subset of men, who mostly claim to be straight, who do have a sexual interest in transwomen. But they're explicit that this is a fetish, and they definitely don't see transwomen as being the same as biological females. You can deduce that from their keen interest in dick; I assume the female attire helps them tell themselves they're not doing anything too gay.

If you're a transwoman who very much wants to be validated as a woman, you don't want to sleep with those guys, but those guys may be the only guys who are interested in sleeping with you.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 28/02/2025 13:54

Datun · 28/02/2025 11:07

I agree in real life, the sex part won't be working, I think they're fantasists.

In the small amount of incel stuff I've read they absolutely think women are privileged. And that the good looking men get all the women.

They believe women can have sex whenever they want, but they gate keep it from men like them. And because all they want is sex, they think this is a massive privilege for women.

If they were a woman, of course, they'd be on their back 24/7, happy days.

The disconnect comes in that they're heterosexual men. So what are they crowing about? They cannot be crowing about having gay sex. Because firstly they're not gay, and secondly, they could be having gay sex as men, no need to transition.

That's why I think it's all online. Gay men flirting with them online, and women telling them their legs look amazing in that dress, you go girl.

I think they often don't realise that there's such a thing as "bad sex", and that for women, "bad sex" means pain, internal injuries, and bacterial or yeast infections. The most common reason for a woman to fake orgasm is because he's taking too long and it's hurting her.

Datun · 28/02/2025 13:12

Mrsbloggz · 28/02/2025 12:03

These men who dress up as women in the hope that heterosexual men will want to have sex with them- they are men themselves and must know that heterosexual men are not sexually attracted to other men?!

The entire edifice relies on the denial of reality.

I think most of them end up very disappointed. Brainwashed into it, and reality-ed out of it.

Willoughby was very put out that a straight man wasn't interested, obviously because they didn't view Willoughby as a woman.

Didn't Willoughby go on to say they'd never even been kissed since their transition?

If you're a gay man denying you're gay, your pool of people to date is going to be tiny.

Gay men and straight women don't validate you, and straight men and gay women don't want you.

You might be okay with a gay man who is bi. But I also read of a transwoman upset because they thought that the bi man sleeping with them might have viewed them as a man, not a woman.

That pesky reality has to be denied not only all the time, but really convincingly!

Mrsbloggz · 28/02/2025 12:53

Chersfrozenface · 28/02/2025 12:35

Not if they're convinced by the genderist propaganda that gay men are attracted to the same gender and straight men are attracted to the opposite gender. So they are adamant that they are now woman gender and therefore straight men should be attracted to them.

Meanwhile in the real world, the overwhelming majority of people are attracted to others on the basis of actual sex. Even most "allies".

I wonder how many male trans allies are willing to 'put their money where their mouth is', so to speak?!

Chersfrozenface · 28/02/2025 12:35

Mrsbloggz · 28/02/2025 12:03

These men who dress up as women in the hope that heterosexual men will want to have sex with them- they are men themselves and must know that heterosexual men are not sexually attracted to other men?!

Not if they're convinced by the genderist propaganda that gay men are attracted to the same gender and straight men are attracted to the opposite gender. So they are adamant that they are now woman gender and therefore straight men should be attracted to them.

Meanwhile in the real world, the overwhelming majority of people are attracted to others on the basis of actual sex. Even most "allies".

Mrsbloggz · 28/02/2025 12:03

These men who dress up as women in the hope that heterosexual men will want to have sex with them- they are men themselves and must know that heterosexual men are not sexually attracted to other men?!

DeanElderberry · 28/02/2025 11:38

'being a man was too much hard work so I stayed a whiney boy-child and expected my mother to wait on me hand and foot'

Datun · 28/02/2025 11:13

I have read accounts from transwomen, saying they did all the right things, even danced on the tables at clubs, but no man came up to them. They say the men can have sex with ever he likes, they'll never complain, they'll be subservient and admiring, so what's not to like?

But that is essentially gay men, or bi, trying to attract straight men.

India Willoughby did it on Big Brother. Juno Dawson insists that their boyfriend is straight.

But incels aren't gay, so I just can't see what they're actually trying to promote.

Datun · 28/02/2025 11:07

Chersfrozenface · 28/02/2025 08:12

I don't know that just attention will hack it.

I suspect they really do think women get free meals and free stuff and free homes just for being women.

And that just declaring themselves women will get them all that from men.

They know so little of the real world that they haven't worked out the details. Like, as PPs have pointed out, that for the scheme to have any chance of working you'd have to be physically attractive, sexually available and actually female, and to find men who are willing to pay for a sexual relationship with you.

Their plan is based on woeful ignorance and internet-fuelled prejudices and fantasies and explodes on contact with reality.

I agree in real life, the sex part won't be working, I think they're fantasists.

In the small amount of incel stuff I've read they absolutely think women are privileged. And that the good looking men get all the women.

They believe women can have sex whenever they want, but they gate keep it from men like them. And because all they want is sex, they think this is a massive privilege for women.

If they were a woman, of course, they'd be on their back 24/7, happy days.

The disconnect comes in that they're heterosexual men. So what are they crowing about? They cannot be crowing about having gay sex. Because firstly they're not gay, and secondly, they could be having gay sex as men, no need to transition.

That's why I think it's all online. Gay men flirting with them online, and women telling them their legs look amazing in that dress, you go girl.

SwanOfThoseThings · 28/02/2025 08:37

Zita60 · 28/02/2025 06:11

Why on earth does the Daily Mail refer to these men as “she”?

It knows they’re just pretending to be women but it goes along with the pretence.

Because they don't want the Press Complaints Commission to come after them for 'misgendering'.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 28/02/2025 08:16

Less hard work.

Haha. The man is delusional. We know the reality.

Chersfrozenface · 28/02/2025 08:12

I don't know that just attention will hack it.

I suspect they really do think women get free meals and free stuff and free homes just for being women.

And that just declaring themselves women will get them all that from men.

They know so little of the real world that they haven't worked out the details. Like, as PPs have pointed out, that for the scheme to have any chance of working you'd have to be physically attractive, sexually available and actually female, and to find men who are willing to pay for a sexual relationship with you.

Their plan is based on woeful ignorance and internet-fuelled prejudices and fantasies and explodes on contact with reality.