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GMC - handbrake turn on transitioning doctors

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ArabellaScott · 23/02/2025 18:39

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/22/disciplinary-records-trans-doctors-will-be-public-gmc-nhs/

GMC appears to have done an almighty reverse here.

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Villagetoraiseachild · 23/02/2025 22:17

youkiddingme · 23/02/2025 22:08

Which is relevant in what way to a patient? Or anybody else except the person themself.

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Agree. It doesn't engender trust in the NHS, which is possibly at an all time low, if a patient is prevented from knowing the biological sex of a doctor to whom they may be relating highly personal information.
It really matters to many women.

WhamFantastic · 23/02/2025 22:16

It is relevant as they allow self ID gender and not sex.

If a patient requests a female doctor for instance, how can they tell from the medical register if a doctor is female if self ID gender is used?

CarefulN0w · 23/02/2025 22:15

Datun · 23/02/2025 19:41

DBS next

Yes. And that affects a lot more people.

youkiddingme · 23/02/2025 22:08

WhamFantastic · 23/02/2025 22:04

They replied to a FoI to say they have no data on sex of the doctors as they record gender instead.

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Which is relevant in what way to a patient? Or anybody else except the person themself.

WhamFantastic · 23/02/2025 22:04

youkiddingme · 23/02/2025 22:02

Good news. But I still want to know the sex of my doctor.

They replied to a FoI to say they have no data on sex of the doctors as they record gender instead.

youkiddingme · 23/02/2025 22:02

Good news. But I still want to know the sex of my doctor.

Helleofabore · 23/02/2025 20:41

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/02/2025 20:22

Yes. There's quite a list isn't there?
The police for repeatedly lying about the sex of sex offenders, paedophiles and the rest.
IPSO - insisting the press lie about the sex of criminals in reports.
The NHS - where to start?

Once you start insisting on truth and accuracy this whole toxic mess starts collapsing.

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And it cannot come fast enough. It is genuinely concerning that it got this far.

Helleofabore · 23/02/2025 20:39

TWETMIRF · 23/02/2025 19:51

Apart from admitting under oath that he'd ignore the consent of anyone asking for a female doctor and treat them anyway?

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Which seems to me to be a court case waiting to happen….

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/02/2025 20:22

Datun · 23/02/2025 19:41

DBS next

Yes. There's quite a list isn't there?
The police for repeatedly lying about the sex of sex offenders, paedophiles and the rest.
IPSO - insisting the press lie about the sex of criminals in reports.
The NHS - where to start?

Once you start insisting on truth and accuracy this whole toxic mess starts collapsing.

Datun · 23/02/2025 19:53

JohnofWessex · 23/02/2025 19:44

Were there any issues over Dr Uptons medical career?

I guess that remains to be seen

TWETMIRF · 23/02/2025 19:51

JohnofWessex · 23/02/2025 19:44

Were there any issues over Dr Uptons medical career?

Apart from admitting under oath that he'd ignore the consent of anyone asking for a female doctor and treat them anyway?

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ArabellaScott · 23/02/2025 19:44

Yes, I'll also add my thanks to Dr Upton for exposing this shocking loophole. Thank goodness for you, Dr!

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JohnofWessex · 23/02/2025 19:44

Were there any issues over Dr Uptons medical career?

JohnofWessex · 23/02/2025 19:43

There is a major issue which goes far beyond this case of people being able to change their name and hiding their history that might otherwise mean they could fail a DBS check or have their criminal record uncovered

Datun · 23/02/2025 19:41

DBS next

Datun · 23/02/2025 19:41

They'd better refer themselves to themselves for whiplash

RedToothBrush · 23/02/2025 19:39

Thanks Dr Upton.

(Told you Upton was on a lose - lose scenario).

FinallyASunnyDay · 23/02/2025 19:37

This is very good news. Well done Dr Anonymous Anaesthetist and Wes Streeting. And also Dr Upton for shining a light on this issue.

AnSolas · 23/02/2025 19:34

Radionowhere · 23/02/2025 18:53

I'm not sure this is good enough tbh.

At least it closes the a hole for the professional hiring process.

The legal basis
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1983/54/contents

My next question would be do they hide the data under the old number or how do they publically close it down?
As the doctor is still on the register would section 31 or other section apply ???

If i knew i was going to be sanctioned I would get a new number have everything actioned under the new name and ID and if needed work out if the State under the old number which has education and training and a long clean work history .........

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 23/02/2025 19:20

Radionowhere · 23/02/2025 18:54

*Tips hat

Huge thanks to that retired anaesthetist who blew the whistle!

lcakethereforeIam · 23/02/2025 19:02

I hope that ferret didn't get injured reversing so fast?

WhamFantastic · 23/02/2025 18:59

Great news!
I still have a massive issue that they classify by 'gender' not sex, and that they allow self ID for that 'gender'.

Radionowhere · 23/02/2025 18:54

*Tips hat

GMC - handbrake turn on transitioning doctors
Radionowhere · 23/02/2025 18:53

I'm not sure this is good enough tbh.

GMC - handbrake turn on transitioning doctors
MarieDeGournay · 23/02/2025 18:46

Good news thanks, ArabellaScott!

'Off-ramp'
''Golden bridge
'Reverse weasel'
'Kicking and screaming'
'Turning tide'
Just a few words and phrases I hope we'll be needing more and more in 2025Smile