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Persuading a TA to change her mind

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HalfArsedTerf · 19/02/2025 19:21

I am passionate about women's fightback against the aggressive gender activists but at the same time I am dependent on my income from running a small business in a small town, so cannot be "out" for fear of TA doing something to harm me. So I do what I can, anonymously on here and on X.

On my FB feed I repost GC news to "friends only". I share screenshots showing the latest madness (e.g. men in women's sports, toilets, prisons etc.) By doing this I have successfully peaked a number of friends. Coward that I am, I never make any comment of my own, so nobody can ever quote me saying something "twansfobic" and then using it to punish me financially.

I found out that a local acquaintance who has for 15 years been on my FB friends list blocked me. When a mutual acquaintance asked why she cited my so-called transphobia. She can only be basing this on my sharing screenshots of news reports on FB.

I don't really understand why a disagreement on this issue means she has to block me. I have a few thousand FB friends and bet we have different views on religion, political allegiance, sexuality, etc. This seems to be the ONE issue which leads to being sent to Coventry.

She is past middle age and (like me) a wheelchair user who is a disability rights campaigner. Her profile declares she is a lifelong feminist, so I find her stance incomprehensible.

I worry that she may poison half the town against me by spreading news of what a hateful bigot she imagines I am and urging other local people to ostracise me.

When I go out I frequently encounter her and although I am nervous I have decided that if I see her, I will confront her, woman to woman, face to face, on this issue. I will try my best to be calm, rational and friendly.

I keep rehearsing things to say in the hope of making her see that agreeing with genderists' demands is not compatible with either feminism or the rights of the disabled to same-sex care. I have seen her advertise for female carers so it's puzzling that she had taken the genderists' side.

Any ideas on what I can say to her that will induce a "light-bulb" moment and make her realise that she is supporting an ideology that harms women, especially the disabled?

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BobbyBiscuits · 20/02/2025 10:29

I don't think there's much point. She blocked you as she no longer wants contact with you. You weren't close real life friends.
If she was going to start badmouthing you I'd imagine it would be made worse if she feels you didn't respect her views and were insistent on trying to change her mind.

FamilyPhoto · 20/02/2025 10:26

People are allowed to disagree with you 🤷‍♀️

MissJoGrant · 20/02/2025 10:22

I think it's really quite arrogant of you to think you need to provide this person with a "light bulb moment".

pootleondown · 20/02/2025 10:21

I think to be honest I'd pretend I hadn't even noticed and just carry on as normal when you see her. I couldn't be arsed to get into any debate with her over it unless she brings it up herself - in which case I would just ask questions...and more questions...until she ties herself up in knots and realised what she's actually supporting 😂

BeaAndBen · 20/02/2025 10:17

Leave the poor woman alone. She disagrees with you. She’s allowed to.

She’s not going to suddenly see the light because that woman from the shop she blocked on Facebook buttonholed her and started making the GC case at her.

If you don’t want people to know your political or moral views to protect your business, don’t post articles on your Facebook page. Stick to non-controversial content only.

I would think she’s far more likely to say things that damage your reputation if you try to convince her what she believes is wrong and anti-feminist than if you are the polite woman she doesn’t know well but disagrees with.

Basically, back off. You’re over thinking this.

verysmellyjelly · 20/02/2025 10:07

@Greyskybluesky That means OP doesn't think it's transphobia. But the blocker said something pertaining to transphobia, ie it's not a total mystery what motivated the block. So not much sense speculating that maybe the blocking woman is actually GC herself, or OP just posts too much on one subject, etc...

Greyskybluesky · 20/02/2025 10:01

verysmellyjelly · 20/02/2025 09:58

OP said in the first post that the blocker directly cited OP's transphobia as the reason for the block.

OP actually said "so-called transphobia"
Not the same

CocoapuffPuff · 20/02/2025 10:00

Separate your business fb from your personal profile, if you haven't already.

Business - keep it professional and related to your business. Posts relating to your private life should be linked to your business somehow. Boundaries.

Personal - use it how you want and accept that some people won't like what you say. Set your own boundaries and accept that others have them, too.

verysmellyjelly · 20/02/2025 09:58

OP said in the first post that the blocker directly cited OP's transphobia as the reason for the block.

Wolfhat · 20/02/2025 09:56

Firstly, I'm sorry this is making you feel nervous. There are two aspects to this 1. Im worried she could harm my business, 2. How do I convince her to believe what I believe.

  1. Do you have any reason to actually believe she would actively harm your business? I have blocked a couple of people on SM as their feeds became a repetitive hammering of a single issue (not saying yours was at all) so I blocked them. Even though I strongly did oppose their views it would never have occured to me to say anything about it in the real world. Certainly not even to start a campaign. However, that may change if they came up to me in public and tried to raise the issue. I honestly would think they were a little unhinged and would tell people of the encounter.

Think of a topic you disagree with politically and imagine someone of a similar relationship level coming up to you to try and convince you about it. I think this tactic will do much more harm to your business.

  1. My advice is to not try and convince her. Certainly none of your points, even good ones will resonate if you drop them on her in what she believes is a casual catch up.

Again sorry this is giving you so much anxiety.

MsVi · 20/02/2025 09:56

HalfArsedTerf · 19/02/2025 21:19

Here we go YET AGAIN! There is always someone who misquotes the OP.

I did not say that my FB feed was nothing but a never ending series of GC posts. I said that when I do share news, I don't make any comments of my own. FYI my feed is a mixture of personal news, interesting photos, other subjects in the news, and a lot of humorous posts like funny memes and links to amusing videos.

But by sharing something like that you are expressing your opinion. It is never a good idea to share anything like this on a SM page. Even people who secretly agree with you can find it uncomfortable.

AnnaMagnani · 20/02/2025 09:54

OP if you have a few thousand friends on Facebook, then they aren't your friends. A large number of them have likely forgotten who you are.

People use Facebook differently and lots won't think about etiquette between muting and blocking.

Given you run a small business I'd think about what it is you want to project about yourself on Facebook.

Is it keeping in touch with friends and family? If so you need to cull a few thousand contacts.

Is it raising awareness of your business? Then everything needs to be strictly professional, no politics and just marketing

Something else? You still need to consider impacts on your business.

Greyskybluesky · 20/02/2025 09:53

Lyn397 · 20/02/2025 09:49

I think you're really over thinking this. If you keep trying to persuade her though then you are likely to make his into much more of an issue than it probably actually is. Just let her step away, no fuss. Don't confront her if you see her, just say hello and move on.

Best advice on here Lyn397

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 20/02/2025 09:53

Are you sure she isn't just a bit irritated by you posting links to news stories without any input from you?

I'm very much GC too, but I wonder if she might possibly be thinking the equivalent of on here when an OP just drops something and asks for opinions or experiences from others, to the inevitable (not unreasonable) response of "You first!"

Could she even be thinking that you hold opposite views to the ones that you actually do and are hoping to snare GC people into responding and showing their hands?!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/02/2025 09:53

She is past middle age and (like me) a wheelchair user who is a disability rights campaigner.

Do you see her at events in the course of this disability rights activism, @HalfArsedTerf? If so, I would just be pleasant and not say anything about the blocking.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/02/2025 09:50

Agree @Lyn397

Lyn397 · 20/02/2025 09:49

I think you're really over thinking this. If you keep trying to persuade her though then you are likely to make his into much more of an issue than it probably actually is. Just let her step away, no fuss. Don't confront her if you see her, just say hello and move on.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/02/2025 09:48

Sorry meant to quote @Holeinamole

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/02/2025 09:47

Another perspective: she has blocked you because she realises that TWAW has become untenable these days, and that it is actually her who looks like a fool. She can’t confront you because she knows you are right, so she is resorting to the petty, pointless act of blocking you. Next time you meet her, just give her an extra nice smile. The facts speak for themselves.

I think this is often the case (not saying it definitely is in your case). Cognitive dissonance is a heavy load, and people don't like having it pierced and having to confront these issues.

MiserableMrsMopp · 20/02/2025 09:41

If you're blocked, leave her alone. It's social media. If she doesn't want to be sociable with you, it's her choice.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/02/2025 09:40

I mean, your hero JK Rowling hid her gender (some feminist!) and wrote her adults books under a pen name - the name is the man who invented the vile gay conversion. Just horrific and you all lap her up.

You had your arse handed to you on another thread for spouting this silly fake news, and here you are trying it again.

Greyskybluesky · 20/02/2025 09:35

Stop lumping everyone together

Hear hear! Back at you StMarie4me you don't get to tell people how to be a feminist

Theunamedcat · 20/02/2025 09:31

StMarie4me · 20/02/2025 08:07

. Her profile declares she is a lifelong feminist, so I find her stance incomprehensible.

You don't get to tell people how to be a feminist!

I mean, your hero JK Rowling hid her gender (some feminist!) and wrote her adults books under a pen name - the name is the man who invented the vile gay conversion. Just horrific and you all lap her up.

But as I say- you don't get to tell people how to be a feminist.

Stop lumping everyone together

Theunamedcat · 20/02/2025 09:30

HalfArsedTerf · 19/02/2025 20:23

@CocoapuffPuff

" I don't understand why you think she'd go to that extreme,"

I'm likely just panicking. I have heard so many scary things that TA have done to people, phoning their employers, reporting them to their governing bodies, etc. I've no reason to think she would do anything against me but then again if she has been radicalised online by the TA there is no telling.

Those blue-haired college girls we see angrily chanting and screeching trying to drown out women at Let Women Speak events were, just a couple of years ago, just regular, polite schoolgirls.

And they will learn at smear tests medical appointments times when they are at their most vulnerable

senua · 20/02/2025 09:23

When I go out I frequently encounter her and although I am nervous I have decided that if I see her, I will confront her, woman to woman, face to face, on this issue.
I was going to suggest what the above poster has said. Don't confront. If the subject does come up then go for a dismissive "have you blocked me? I hadn't noticed"Grin
It might be an idea to link to some articles about people being peaked, the tide turning, sports bodies finally waking up, etc. Let her be on the wrong side of history, it's not your problem.

I'd echo the previous comment about thinking about why you are worrying that your business might be at risk from a whispering campaign by one person.Confused If you are good at your job and value-for-money then people will vote with their wallets.