In quite the turnaround Scottish Labour say the support Sandie Peggie, and would not support the GRR bill "knowing what they know now"!

There is even more publicity of this in Scotland, and people will have stronger opinions on the MSPs who are being forced to make some sort of statement (of the "process must be followed" type even though the process is still being abused).

"This entire thing kicked off because transactivists persuaded politicians that a man could successfully disguise himself as a woman to the point of undetectability, and therefore his right to a private life depended his not outing himself.

The disparity between protecting the privacy of at most, what, three men? at the expense of all women and girls, is fucking unbelievable."

legal people: after the Goodwin case did politicians have any choice?

I agreee though - fucking unbelievable.

This entire thing kicked off because transactivists persuaded politicians that a man could successfully disguise himself as a woman to the point of undetectability, and therefore his right to a private life depended his not outing himself.

YY. This is absolutely key.

"Pam Duncan-Glancy MSP: 'where would a trans woman go if she didn’t want to
use a gender neutral toilet because she was worried she may out herself?'"

Men should not be disguising their sex to the point where children, girls and women either can't recognise it, or are not allowed to say so, ffs. Where is the bloody safeguarding??

With the fervent encouragement of politicians up to the point where those men are given access to vulnerable women and children in order to shore it all up!

This entire thing kicked off because transactivists persuaded politicians that a man could successfully disguise himself as a woman to the point of undetectability, and therefore his right to a private life depended his not outing himself.

The disparity between protecting the privacy of at most, what, three men? at the expense of all women and girls, is fucking unbelievable.

Oi! I object! 😃

But yeah.

The 'poor vulnerable flower' who wept and had to be helped to a Hansom outside his car after being spoken to sternly by SP was magically replaced by an argumentative, sneery, arrogant, disrespectful bloke when it came to the tribunal.
If there was any doubt about him being a bloke, his attitude and behaviour were a dead giveaway.

Quite possibly he's only read things in his bubble, like r/transgender, and so thinks he's a hero and a poor vulnerable flower that deserves "treats".

“Oooh I didn’t realise letting all men into all women’s spaces would let in rapists, paedophiles, voyeurs, exhibitionists and other sex predators. Noooo, who could possibly have guessed that? Even when told explicitly by numerous people?”

I have to be glad when politicians stop doing a terribly harmful thing. But I’m not going to thank them.

"Pam Duncan-Glancy MSP: 'where would a trans woman go if she didn’t want to
use a gender neutral toilet because she was worried she may out herself?'"

For FUCK's sake!

That's positive but I still wonder what the reaction will be from delegates - many will be members or representatives of trade unions including unison.

ForWomenScotland will be presenting at the Scottish Labour conference!

Ex-fucking-zactly. Thank you, IwantToRetire.

"They are the ones who wrote the SSE and think it is acceptable to tell biological women they have to show why it is proportionate for them to have Single Sex Services.
Women as a sex are the only protected characteristic who have had their characteristic demoted in relation to someone said by a certificate to be something they physically aren't. This erosion of the concept of a protected characterisic is not and would never be accepted in relation say to race or disability."

Contact your Labour Councilors, MPs and MSPs and congratulate Sarwar for seeing sense and discovering biology is real. Great they are now denouncing the SNP. However reverse ferreting is not enough.

1 Demand apologies for Claire Baker and Carol Mochan MSPs who were demoted by Labour for breaking the party whip and voting against the Bill. Also request apologies to other Labour women like Anne Henderson and Johann Lamont [a former leader of Scottish Labour] who were ignored and to JK Rowling and the countless other women who wouldn't wheesht . They were right all along admit it.

2 - Sarwar should call out Unison for their recent sexist nonsense. Great you now criticise the SNP but it goes deeper than that.

@Scout2016 Shouldn’t have read your post before going to sleep!
Now I have random lines from ‘Oh what a circus, oh what a show’ going round my head!

@GargoylesofBeelzebub bloody loved it though didn't he? Seemed to relish the chance to soapbox and show how clever he is...at the start at least!
I recall beforehand some were thinking he wouldn't show, or were feeling a bit sorry for him...that didn't last. I got the impression he'd have been rather miffed if he hadn't had the chance to speak.

I suspect a few of the supporters behind him weren't too unhappy with being in the reflected limelight either. What a circus he made of it all.

Yip and the Doctor basically saying he would treat a woman who'd requested a female Doctor.

I'm a pretty laid back individual, and generally trust medical professionals to be professional.
I had fertility treatment more internal ultrasounds than I care to count. My last smear the nurse was a SCHOOL MUM, being fair she did say I could cancel and get a different nurse. I went ahead trusting she wouldn't be discussing my hair-do at the school gates.

But I'd honestly question the motives of a Man pretending to be a Woman is he getting a kick out of it?

I agree. Welcome them back to their senses (and note they are not to be trusted).

I don't know who wrote this so can't credit them.

Plus, people expect criminals to act disgracefully and to have no shame. Whereas obviously doctors are held to higher standards.

@Scout2016 yes this one is the perfect storm.
Everyone must know someone in the nursing profession.
While Isla opened eyes, lots of people couldn't care less about the prison population. But they do care about nurses.

I hope Sandie Peggie is chilling out. She is an absolute star woman.

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I'm always really chuffed when I see Argyll&Bute in dark red.

Well, trust farmers to know how to separate ewes from rams.

I think this has been a perfect storm. Just like how quickly Isla Bryson came along in his pink leggings to illustrate the risks they said wouldn't happen happening. A sex offending male blatantly playing the system. But people don't care so much about women in prison.

The fact the Fife case involves a TW giving evidence and the fact they have spouted nonsense, the fact this TW is a smug infuriating arse and - majorly I think - compounded by the fact they are a doctor ... I don't think a man employed in many other jobs spouting nonsense would have had the same impact as "he said what now? And hes a doctor?". But people have opinions about the NHS, how their money is spent, and people do care about nurses, more I would guess than they care about doctors. For example I know many people who would want nurses to have a pay rise but think doctors are taking the piss, paid well already and using patients as pawns with strikes etc.
Nurses seem to be more popular, in my opinion. (I have no research papers to back that theory up.)
People also care about themselves and their family and do not want to be treated by someone creepy who doesn't appear to even have primary school biology skills.

Liars the lot of them!

I'll never forget, never forgive.