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Newly trans colleague sexual harassment

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parallelignition · 12/02/2025 20:31

Hi,

Over the past 2 years a male colleague has made inappropriate sexual comments, spoke in length to me about a sexual fantasy and makes various jokes with sexual innuendos. I have reported him three times for the more serious things but has only had warnings. He knows he is on thin ice so over the last year only minor innuendos have been said. Yesterday he made a comment making me feel uneasy (about a threesome). Today he has come out as trans in a meeting.

I feel really upset today. It’s like he’s trying to bring me in to his sexual fantasy where he wasn’t properly able to before. I don’t want to refer to him as she or share toilets with him. I feel I need to mention how I’m feeling to management but don’t know how to without seeming transphobic and getting into trouble. I have to work closely with him unfortunately. Is there any advice on how I can handle this?

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Pluvia · 01/03/2025 20:27

OP, Sheila Jeffreys has just produced a report for the Reem Alsalem at the UN in which she argues that women who are expected to work alongside and affirm and validate TWs are being subjected to harassment:

You might want to listen to her and see if it chimes with you. If it does, you might want to suggest to HR/ management that you feel harassed and would like to raise a grievance.

DisillusionedTech · 26/02/2025 20:00

Thanks for your kind posts Daleksatemyshed

CerealPosterHere · 26/02/2025 19:09

The fact that you e reported him multiple times and they’ve done nothing to protect you made me think of this recent case. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14438119/NHS-nurse-quit-colleague-refused-tea-payout.html

id report him again for what he said yesterday. Remind them this is now the 4th time you have reported him, he’s had multiple warnings and ask them in writing/email what they are going to do to protect you from this ongoing serious harassment.

Stepfordian · 26/02/2025 19:00

I know it’s not always possible or practical but if you can I’d look for another job, my instinct would be to leave before it becomes a bigger problem and you get accused of ‘transphobia’ for daring to mention creepy man has been creepy.

Daleksatemyshed · 26/02/2025 18:22

@DisillusionedTech that's so wrong, for you to have to avoid the toilets because no one would back you up. I think your post is a perfect snapshot of why women don't want TW in the ladies toilet and why so many men are quite happy to say TWAW because it doesn't impact them in the slightest.
I'm very glad you're so insightful and protected yourself

Emerald0897 · 26/02/2025 17:54

I think I would simply report the harassment, factually, making no reference to his 'trans' announcement, but also listing again the previous complaints you have made, and how it is a pattern.

DisillusionedTech · 26/02/2025 17:27

Daleksatemyshed · 26/02/2025 16:49

@DisillusionedTech , that's very creepy - did you say or do anything about it?

No because one thing you learn early when you’re a woman in a tech field where women are particularly rare is that the men will always protect other men. When the TW colleague got creepier I stopped working in that office. I’d visit as I had people based there but never stay long enough I’d need the loo.

Daleksatemyshed · 26/02/2025 16:49

@DisillusionedTech , that's very creepy - did you say or do anything about it?

LifeInAHamsterWheel · 26/02/2025 15:17

How are you doing OP? Have you had any confirmation from HR regarding what toilet facilities your brave & stunning colleague will be using?

LittleBigHead · 15/02/2025 05:15

I remember that thread! The current case in Fife reminded me of that.

wasn’t the trans-identified man in that thread also trying for a child, so fully aware of his sex and that of his partner’s ?

LittleBigHead · 15/02/2025 05:11

Also , strength in numbers. Men like this rarely target only one woman in the sexist behaviour. Ask around and see whether he’s made such sexually harassing comments to other women. Together you’ll be stronger in keeping your toilets etc single sex.

LittleBigHead · 15/02/2025 05:08

Report report report on the basis of sexual harassment. No need to mention trans. He probably thinks it’s a get out of gaol free card. It’s not.

Unless your colleague has a GRC (gender recognition certificate) he is still legally a man for the purposes of things like single sex facilities.

THE Equality Act is clear about this - and the organisation Sex Matters has online guidance to help you.

Thelnebriati · 14/02/2025 12:40

The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992 - employers must offer toilets, showers and changing rooms that are either single use or single sex.
They could offer the trans identifying man a separate facility, whether or not he has acquired a Gender Recognition Certificate. They should not harass female staff and tell them to be kind and share their facilities.

Page 37 onwards;
www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/l24.pdf

Wetcappuccino · 14/02/2025 11:16

There are separate legal protections against Sexual Harassment in the Worker Protection amendment which came into effect last year. Your employer has a Preventative Duty. I would take advice on this and make sure you take a record of all the previous instances/ complaints.

RunsWithDinosaurs · 14/02/2025 10:09

I have no suggestions, but am incensed for you. He’s basically found a way to engage you and your colleagues in his AGP sexual fantasies by claiming trans and forcing you to refer to and treat him “as a woman” or risk a claim of B&H. He’ll no doubt enjoy the power and be turned on by this. I don’t see how you can win on that, but just have to keeping focusing on the overt and direct sexual harassment. I don’t know if I could stomach it.

Itisbetter · 13/02/2025 10:58

Write down all the dates and times and who’s,of your previous complaints. If you have diary entries or room booking then copy them.
Inform HR of the threesome comment but now do it by email so it’s timed and dated. I’d send it to whoever you had the last meeting with and remind them about your previous complaints.
If he turns up in the toilets, walk straight to HR and complain

DisillusionedTech · 13/02/2025 10:50

It took me a while to realise but one of my trans colleagues was watching for when I went to the toilet and following me, so just be aware

Daleksatemyshed · 13/02/2025 10:36

Absolutely complain to HR Op, it's really bad that they've let his harrassment go on for so long. I'd watch and wait on the issue of him using the ladies toilets, go with someone else if necessary. Just focus on his history of sexual harrassment, it's reasonable for you not to want to be in a semi private confined space when you can't trust him

LifeInAHamsterWheel · 13/02/2025 09:18

This is awful, I'm so sorry you're experiencing this.

There was a long thread a year or so ago on this board, the OP had issues with a newly brave & stunning transwoman in their team - she called him Ginny for the purpose of the thread. It was shocking to read. I have often wondered how it all panned out.

You've had some really good advice on this thread OP, I hope you can navigate this awful situation safely and that your own concerns and needs are met and not put below his feelings.

YellowRoom · 13/02/2025 09:15

This is fucking outrageous - he's been making inappropriate sexual remarks to colleagues for two years!! And he's just had a slap on the wrist. Shitty management of him

zanahoria · 13/02/2025 09:09

WarriorN · 13/02/2025 06:49

Agree with the above.

His identity makes no difference, and although decisions around toilets jn the future may, that hasn't happened yet.

Log everything now. Past reports help your case anyway

This makes perfect sense

The complaints pre date the transition so accusations of transphobia can easily be countered.

WarriorN · 13/02/2025 06:49

Agree with the above.

His identity makes no difference, and although decisions around toilets jn the future may, that hasn't happened yet.

Log everything now. Past reports help your case anyway

sadmillenial · 13/02/2025 04:50

Brainworm · 12/02/2025 22:49

It might be helpful to take sex and gender out of the equation with regard to the sexual harassment issues - your colleague has been engaging is sexual harassment and that is unacceptable, irrespective of their sex or gender.

You can raise that you find it extremely uncomfortable being in a confined space (WC/ CR) with a colleague who has engaged in inappropriate sexual conduct and would like to be allocated a CR/WC where you won't have to encounter them. If any accusations of transphobia arise, you can say you this is about their conduct.

This is good advice, because any colleague who has made these comments and harassed you should be reported.
Their gender reassignment/identity is separate to the incidents you've described here

healthybychristmas · 13/02/2025 00:03

He really sounds as though he has something up with him. He sounds a perfect candidate for wanking in the female toilets. Fucking horrible disgrace of a man.

MarieDeGournay · 12/02/2025 23:12

Dr U in the Fife case keeps 'framing his trauma' as transphobia - he was not welcome in the women's changing room because he's trans, whereas anybody who isn't captured can see it was actually because he's male.

So being transgender can be deployed by men as a shield behind which they can - or can attempt to - get away with stuff that 'ordinary' men wouldn't get away with.

Obviously if you say that out loud, you're just playing into the 'Is it because I'm trans?' business, but keep it in mind and when you're taking notes, make a note of his behaviour as a man full stop.

This is a terrible situation to be in OP, I'm really sorry you're going through it.
It was a good idea to bring your problem here to FWR, I hope you feel that there's support here, some of it practical and lots of it just 'that's bloody awful, poor you!'

Stay strong.