Green Party disaffiliate from stonewall

So they seem to be on board with an ideological belief that in many cases is used to deny the rights of, and damage same sex attracted people by ‘transing away the gay’. They seem to be fanatical celebrants of an ideological belief that is also deeply misogynistic and is being used to try to relegate women as second class citizens (with no right to object) to men cheating them out of their own sports and organisations. Even torpedoing women’s healthcare as language which promotes gender identity is promoted over their actual function as a service for women. Making women little more than background figures/also ran humans in breastfeeding organisations which were only designed to help women. They believe in crippling any intellectual or rational debate by censoring discussion and eliminating any dissenters. No respect for freedom of speech or expression.

Why are we pretending they have any equality or socially good real aims, functions or effects? They seem little more than rabid, regressive tyrants. You get the feeling they’d love a little gulag somewhere to lock up the heretics and blasphemers who don’t toe their ideology.

There seems to be a vacancy for the a party with environmental protection as their goal. The Green Party seems to now just mean ‘Green’ as in gullible.

Until regular posters who are members of the GP hear one way or the other, or it becomes obvious from the accounts, I suppose we won't know.

I'm not not sure, I can't find third party confirmation of this happening, plus I found this which suggests Ali is acting out of malice? www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4dyl2n1m8o

How do we know that the party has ACTUALLY disaffiliated?

Interestingly Stonewall just changed definition of transphobia. Stonewall is now saying the terfs were right basically:

Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5266421-stonewall-change-definition-of-transphobia-questioning-gender-identity-ok-now

Be great if Stonewall disassociated from itself.

The Green Party is a prime example of Omnicause adherence.

The Green Party got a lot of support from Muslims for their stance on Gaza and Israel. Muslims are not on board with LGBTQWTFBBQ politics. Seeing support and numbers for the Trans lobby slipping away, they're trading that in and gambling on becoming a big draw for Muslim voters.

In recent years, I have voted Green in local elections. I consider them too immature organisationally to trust them with my national vote. However, I have been reluctant to vote for them even in local elections since they suspended our excellent parliamentary candidate for stating publicly that sex is biological and that there are two sexes. Then, instead of dealing with her case, she remained suspended for months, with no action taken. I explained this to two GP canvassers at the time of last year's local elections. Both of them looked really uncomfortable and remained silent. I felt for them, having stood silently on doorsteps as a Labour canvasser as people railed against Labour.

Hopefully, withdrawing from Stonewall will be the first of many steps to make the party more electable so there is a force on the left to provide a better balance with Reform on the right.

All the same, baby steps ....

Too late forever, the fact they joined and were stupid enough to follow stonewall law means they cannot be trusted to not blindly follow the next big thing, with zero critical thinking. And even if I could get over the stupidity, there were many people (very brave people) telling them this wasnt right, there was more to it and women will be hurt by this, and they were ignored.

So stupid and ignorant doesnt make a political party I want to vote for.

This ⬆️

Stonewall selling training to organizations that they then give certificates to is the modern secular equivalent of the Roman Catholic Church selling indulgences.

Give us your money and be free of the sin of transphobia

Even if there was value in the 'training' Stonewall offer, it is hard to understand why anyone would want to permanently sign up to these schemes. Surely after a year or so everyone would be 'trained'? What more do they offer on top of that?

1. They cant afford more court cases.
2. Elections are coming up and they may - finally - be realising their batshit approach is a turn off

I wont consider voting for them again until the leadership changes.

I don't 100% know because the decision hasn't been shared publicly.

Par for the course with GPEW. The decision to join Stonewall was never announced publicly either - it was buried in the accounts.

Interesting.

Because the GP now has so little money that it can't afford the subs?

Rather than using "not value for money" as a figleaf for disaffiliating as some public bodies have done?

Shahrar Ali actually proposed disafiliation to Conference 4 times. Each time, either the motion wasn't heard (so much time is wasted that many of the motions on the agenda aren't heard) or it was defeated.

Membership was allowed to lapse for financial reasons rather than a decision to disafiliate made by Conference.

Yes. This is it.

Disaffiliation hasn't been announced to members and TRAs still have the majority in 2 of the most powerful bodies in the Green Party - GPRC (Green Party Regional Council) and DC (Disciplinary Committee)

Too late.

I really wish Local Authorities would do this too. My Local Authority is in a terrible financial position yet still proudly proclaims itself a Stonewall Diversity Champion.

He said he has had to "put on a fake deeper voice and pretend to be a lad just to go to the shop, a restaurant, or pub

Why would it be "pretending"? Trans men are men, no?