New Executive Order: Protecting Children from Chemical and Surgical Mutilation

@FlowchartRequired Don't assume that I dislike people with trans identities as a group - I don't. Many of them are the biggest victims of this damaging ideology.

Seeing that damage to someone I knew was the thing that woke me up to the horror of the gender project.

Sorry, meant to quote Talkinpeace

So when I say I have a pretty low opinion of Trump and he is is amoral and not interested in defending women’s rights (9.37 Thursday) you think that means I’m defending him?

When I posted at 21.47 on Wednesday I referenced the woman who wrote these EO’s you think I mean Trump?

I’m well aware of the dangers, but I’ll also take the wins. I won’t agree with everything (much?) Trump does, but I wouldn’t have loved everything Harris would have done either. And don’t forget, there’re Dems benefiting financially from medically harming children……they’re not perfect either

The thing is, the Dems have been comparing Republican presidential candidates to Hitler since the Truman campaign did it against Tom Dewey (!) in 1948.

They gave it a rest for Eisenhower, because calling Ike a Nazi would just have been too ridiculous, but it's been escalating ever since.

I'm old enough to remember "Reagan = Hitler". Most of us will remember "Bush = Hitler".

Joe Biden told a black audience that Mitt Romney wanted to "put y'all back in chains". That's Mitt Romney, the definitive anti-Trump milquetoast conservative.

Trump has just appointed Scott Bessent, a married gay man, to be his Treasury Secretary, and we're supposed to believe he's got a secret plan to outlaw gay marriage.

Spend more than ten minutes on Democrat subreddits, and you have to conclude that there's a definite element there who don't fear the Trump administration turning into Nazi Germany - they desire it, and they're furious that he's not giving it to them.

I wish there was a word for this kind of political psychopathology.

Some people have a problem, and it's not those of us who are willing to take a win from these EOs.

Who could possibly think that removing healthy body parts from teenagers was a good thing?

At the end of the new clip they asked Denver what surgeries they would no longer be performing [on children]. Unsurprisingly they didn't answer, still 'sorting all that out'

I don't think anyone on this board is under the illusion that Trump has women's interests at heart

This. No-one here is under any illusions about about Trump, he is a POS. But... we realise he knows an easy win when he sees one. And these EOs can only do a massive amount of good, world-wide.

We know that Trump didn't author the EOs shared on this board. I suspect that that is totally normal and that it would be unusual - to say the least - for an incoming US President to write every word of every EO they sign.

Don't assume that I dislike people with trans identities as a group - I don't. Many of them are the biggest victims of this damaging ideology.

Remember, most women who post on this board are in the UK and therfore had no vote in the US election. You can bang on about 'Project 2025' but it is not our doing - for good or bad - that Trump and the GOP won. The Dems should have stood up against this ideology, but they didn't.

I don't think anyone on this board is under the illusion that Trump has women's interests at heart. If I were gay in America I would be concerned about elements of the Republican party who want to ban gay marriage although this wasn't something Trump campaigned on and I don't think he will do this but I don't think anyone knows what's going to happen over the next four years. Coming for people who are medically transing children or teaching kids they might have been born in the wrong body and making it clear that men should keep out of women's spaces and sports is completely 100 per cent the right thing to do. Obviously it will play out in unpredictable ways - not least that people will say if Trump's doing it then it must be bad. All I can say is that on this particular issue I'm grateful that Trump and his team have brought the big cannons to the battle.

...Then they came for the men in women's prisons and put them in men's prisons and suspended the utter cunts who put them there in the first place.

... And I thought, a stopped clock and all that.

Appreciate the note of caution and all that, but (a) rather patronising to think that that hasn't occurred to anyone on this or the many other related threads this week (B) I'm not going to turn my nose up at a good idea because Orange Man Bad. That was the Dems' entire strategy and it was a spectacular failure. They're going to need some good ideas of their own.

People like Biden pretend to like everyone but actually hates women and children

No one's saying we're going to like everything from this administration. But this is pure gold. So why didn't the Democrats do it?

First they came for the child mutilation and chemical castration doctors....erm...good.

Came to say this. It reminds me of the poem “First They Came” by Martin Niemöller. Be careful to congratulate a megalomaniac like Trump.

The problem with people like Trump is that they lure you in by pretending to only dislike the people you dislike.

He's not going to stop there.

He's now saying people with physical disabilities shouldn't be doing jobs like air traffic controllers.

@Runor
Trump is neither writing nor reading nor caring about EOs such as these

the first one was identified as having been written by a campaigning lawyer
likely she wrote these later two as well

BUT
they are part of Project 2025

Clearly defining women and families is part of that playbook
be careful

Which is partly how soundbites and trite phrases are believed, with little to no basis in fact.

Because if you look at social media, many many people don't go to the source. They'll read an op piece or watch a heavily redacted 'react' video of clips, or read memes. I'd guess most people don't read the text of the EOs themselves.

Inevitably.

Is that Marcie Bowers talking about 'suicidality'?

Order taking effect:

Denver Health pauses gender-affirming surgeries for trans youth to preserve federal funding

That relates to section 4 of the other EO

www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/ending-radical-indoctrination-in-k-12-schooling/

It's a fact that the USA became independent in 1776.

It had fewer states, many of the present states were still home to the indigenous people, others were Spanish or French or Russian before becoming part of the USA, and most Americans' ancestors were still living on other continents in 1776, but there's nothing to stop teaching all those aspects of history and celebrating what started in 1776.

I wonder what all the actual native Americans think about that "250 years old" stuff? If you believe America's history is glorious and patriotic and all the rest of the Stars and Stripes bollocks, I can't see how you're teaching kids history accurately. So I'd suggest a bit of overreach in this last one.

This is what we need in our schools.

Meanwhile I am awaiting developments in the NHS with interest - much NHS software has been bought in from USA and has frequently replaced sex with gender, hence reports of newborn babies' discharge letters stating their gender rather than sex.
Will the software get re-written in the USA and filter down here I wonder? 🤞

They really are cleaning house aren't they! My flabber is well and truly gasted at all these EOs.