New Executive Order: Protecting Children from Chemical and Surgical Mutilation

Achieving consensus among groups is a pretty important human ability from an evolutionary point of view. The vast majority of us are hard wired not to rock the boat - and the group is primed to punish those who do.

Think of the treatment of whistleblowers for example. They're almost always treated appallingly, no matter how justified their position is.

So optimal functioning of society is where most people are quick to conform and a few contrary types are there to call out when things get out of hand. Those people probably suffer as a result of doing so.

But in this particular instance, there are other factors at play. One very important one is that we've lost a sense of strong moral frameworks that everyone has in common, so we have people coming at this from very different viewpoints. There is also huge corruption and betrayal of trust in the medical profession.

@DeanElderberry The maddening thing is how often, after doing that, people who were nodding along with whatever the thing was I challenged, come up and say they agreed with me and 'someone needed to say it'.

Well you see that's the agreeable folk again - actually being quite disagreeable by allowing you to take the flak. They want to have their cake and eat it

How can this be justified?

I've got scar tissue from a necessary operation, to allow me to use my hand. It pulls, and sometimes the scar tissue splits in the cold weather.

How can the doctors take physically healthy people, and do that to them?

How can anyone not see this as destructiv

I haven't looked at the photograph.

I tend to be a people pleaser, partly out of gutlessness. I've had to consciously train myself to speak up and/or out when I disagree with the consensus. The maddening thing is how often, after doing that, people who were nodding along with whatever the thing was I challenged, come up and say they agreed with me and 'someone needed to say it'. So why not you, chaps, why always me?

I just don't know how anyone can look at the following photo and think that this is a path that children should be put on. Mutilation is the right word.

Thank you but being agreeable definitely has its disadvantages. I really do appreciate the grumpy ones! 🙂

😀Me too. Suspect that's what you need in order to resist the demands of "be kind and let us sterilise children" brigade.

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I'm even disagreeable about agreeableness. It's always presented as such a wonderful trait; kind, empathetic, willing to go with the flow, trusting. I just think "bunch of boring doormats" 😂(not you@Lovelyview obvs😘)

I haven't taken this test but generally I'd class myself as a sensitive, introvert people pleaser who has/had a lot of trust in authority. I believe in the scientific method. I was also a second wave feminist who stupidly thought we'd got women's rights sorted in the 1980s and that it was all plain sailing from there. How wrong I was. I feel betrayed by authorities that I previously trusted (nhs, universities, civil service, bbc, Guardian etc.). I never really thought about transgender ideology until the Isla Bryson case in Scotland. I went from What's this about then? to full on Terf in about a month thanks to Mumsnet and Twitter and my own belief in science and women's rights. Wanting to protect children from irreversible harm also came into it. Because of my personality my Terfing consists of writing to my MP, contributing to crowd-funders and commenting on Mumsnet and Twitter where appropriate. I admire the bolshy ones without being one myself. I am deeply grateful for those who have taken all the flack on this.

That 1 will be me, I'm disagreeable all the time but I'm off the chart disagreeable about this. 😁

Disagreeable contrarians who resisted gender fever are the real oddballs. Some combination of personality quirk and conviction that occasionally makes us obnoxious employees and intolerable cocktail-party guests also inoculated us against gender madness. There is no reforming us.
But we served a vital function: Together, a ragtag crew of truculent journalists and outcast researchers stopped the entire herd from running off the cliff. None of us ever expected to be welcomed back into the same elite circles that, only recently, had cheered or looked away as a generation of tormented girls took themselves apart.

I did a Big Five Personality Trait test once and discovered (without surprise) that, if there were 100 people in a room, only 1 would be less agreeable than me😁I've always made the point that disagreeableness would have served an evolutionary function. Wonder how many GC women are disagreeable?

JB Pritzker wants to be the Democratic candidate for president in 2028, and the party might be dumb enough to nominate him.

Yeah, good luck with that guys.

Thanks so much for posting this!

I'd seen print interviews with Strangio before, but it's only when she was recently arguing before the Supreme Court that I heard her on audio.

Yeah... the facial hair is doing all the heavy lifting.

Instant Republican attack ad: "Pritzker wants to cut your son's dick off"

I've always thought Pritzker is a bit onomatopoeic; it sounds like surgery!

It's a shame that the article doesn't point out that Strangio is a transman, as that bit of information does enlighten the reader about Strangio's bias on this issue.

Chicago politics of course. As usual with Obama.

JB Pritzker wants to be the Democratic candidate for president in 2028, and the party might be dumb enough to nominate him.

Instant Republican attack ad: "Pritzker wants to cut your son's dick off"

The Democrats need a Lyndon Johnson figure to stand up and say they were wrong about this thing they previously supported and put them back on the correct path of protecting children and women.

Segregation was around for an awful lot longer than Gender Ideology but it will take a similar size shift in thinking to realign values of both people and party.

That's very interesting. I know some work has already been done on this, but the relationship between Obama and the Pritzker family seems particularly important and worth further investigation.

very sobering.

Well worth a read

yes, the dems were hellbent on implementing the ideology. Telling children seeking surgery that they 'have their backs'.

Exactly.

The question is not 'why is Trump doing this?' - because any sane adult would be doing this.

The question is why the hell the Democrats are NOT doing this? And I guess the reason is that they're so frozen by their tribal loyalties and inability to admit they got it wrong - that they can't. A disgraceful place to have found themselves in.

This is an excellent review of the harms of "gender ideology" in the last decade or so by Abigail Shrier, highlighting in particular the malign actions of the Obama and Biden administrations in enabling and promoting it:

How the Gender Fever Finally Broke

We can see this trope being utterly repeated ad nauseum. It happens often enough on these threads. You object to removal of single sex spaces, you’re a far right nazi. You object to young girls removing their breasts, stopping puberty, taking CSH, you must be a far right Christian evangelist. You don’t embrace men in women’s sports, you’re a Trump supporter.

Why oh why has it taken Trump (more likely his advisers) to draw a line in the sand on this madness ruining young peoples lives? It is on the so-calked progressive left that we are where we are. Depending on Trump to protect children. And giving the left every reason to maintain their crazy thinking just because they would never agree with him.

Of course and reading the EOs it's clear that language needs to be considered and checked and a team will be doing that

That would be normal

Presumably top line ideas come from the President

Me too. It's devastating