Can we talk about bisexuality?

So you’d have dinner with a Brexiteer but presumably you wouldn’t invite a Brexiteer to join a Remain/Rejoin campaign group? or a social event directly related to a rejoin campaign group?

Maybe engage with the issue rather than throwing around accusations like that?

I guess it depends what you see "the issue" as. People who are L, G or B are now so common. No-one cares who you sleep with. They might see you as "other" but just in the way a group of brexiteers might see remainers as other. It's life, get on with it and stop being so self-obsessed

Sometimes they're straight and sometimes they're gay 😂

No they're bi all the time !

You raise some very interesting points. Every time I rail against the force-teaming of TQ++ with LGB, a little voice asks - and how did the 'B' get there?

The thing about being lesbian or gay is that you have a definite sexual orientation which shapes your relationships - not just your intimate relationships, but wider social relationships, as you say, Pluvia:
Things like the need to come out regularly to people who assume that we're in straight relationships, the slight but still palpable 'othering' that sometimes comes when people realise they're talking to someone who isn't just like them.

The addition of B to LGB is relatively recent, if you go back you'll see that organisations were ' 'Gay', and then after campaigning by gay women 'Lesbian and Gay'. At some point it just became 'Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual' - inevitably the L&G community had no say in this, and it was not without its critics at the time - not that we have anything against bisexual people, it's not the deep-seated objection to what the TQ++ stands for, and at least it is to do with sexual identity rather than madey-uppy stuff; but as a friend of mine commented back then about the sudden addition of the B: 'Sometimes they are straight and sometimes they are gay - so why do we represent them full time?'

It would be a welcome return to clarity if lesbian and gay issues were recognised for what they are - issues facing people with a homosexual sexual orientation.
Other sexual orientations exist, including heterosexual and bisexual, and all are 'worthy of respect ...' but they are not the same.

It is a cornerstone of FWR that women's rights should be respected as being about women, and this is not to suggest that other people's rights are less important. Similarly it can be argued that lesbian and gay rights should be respected as being about homosexual people.

I've just read some of the responses that have been posted since I started writing this (I have difficulty with finding words, and it takes me a long time to get my thoughts onscreen). I'm a bit shocked at the nastiness of the reply to the OP's thoughful post. Nobody's being 'fragile' or telling anybody to 'fuck off'.
Maybe engage with the issue rather than throwing around accusations like that?

I don't know if there's a solution to this.

Why do you need one?

I'm a bi sexual woman, I presume I 'pass' as straight, but I'm not trying to, I don't care about it and I could not give a flying duck what anyone else thinks of me.

I have had relationships with women over the years but settled into a long term marriage with a man; probably because I liked him the most.

How fragile!

Right. So I'm one of those women. I'm strongly attracted to women but am in a relationship with a man. I also know several women and men, in fact, m who were in heterosexual relationships and came out as lesbians/gay. Life is not always straightforward. You say we 'pass' as heterosexuals but actually we're fully aware of how people feel about those of us who are bisexual. We know people think we're not legitimate or 'properly' part of the LGB community because there is this constant need to gatekeep. It's tiresome. It's also why I steer of anything LGB related because this appears to be the pre ailing attitude

Im still bisexual. I'm in relationship with a man probably because when I was growing up I didn't really have a name for how I felt but liked men enough to go with the norm. I'm still more strongly attracted to women than men but still feel less able to express that for all sorts of reasons. My bisexuality absolutely has not changed because I'm in a relationship with a man. But because we're not in a same sex relationship we should just fuck off?

Nice

@Pluvia

I do understand your quandary.

I think your instinct is right - that the bi partner is welcome but the straight other half isn't. It's not really fair on the homosexuals in the room if the straights are automatically included. Speaking as a straight woman myself.

Edited to tag in OP