Can we talk about bisexuality?

They are predominantly lesbians and gay men with a smaller proportion bisexual.
Under Survey tab here:
https://lgballiance.org.uk/resources/

Genuinely - if in a 'straight' relationship - how does one do this (outside immediate family) in a way that doesn't sound like a bid for attention; as a pp put it, wanting to 'sound special'? In 99% of social interactions, there's no reason to mention sexuality.

I've seen the claim that the LGB Alliance is mostly straight people, which has been debunked - but is it mostly bisexual people? I wasn't aware of that.
So more B than LG then? I'm genuinely curious - anything to back that up?

This is where bisexuality has so much ambiguity... Happy to be part of lgbt community, but will act straight to appease society or use it as a mask... in this posters case.

L and G don't have the choice of this. Bisexuals who are fully out and declare it don't either.

However many have stated in this thread that they are living heterosexual lifestyles, so whqt percentage are out and proud bisexuals?

I think this is where it lies with lesbians and gays, we have to be out, as its miserable being in the cLoset.

Probs going to get slated, but if aren't willing to make a stand like lesbians and gays coming out, which means being out the closet and proud in many situations.... then this is where the problem lays.

I know not all bisexuals are like this, but being open and proud would do a lot for the cause.

It seems many are living heterosexual lifestyles and don't actually understand the prejudices of being in a same sex relationship.

Bisexuality is different to being gay or lesbian. Each of the LGB faces different challenges. Yes, we can and should all support each other, but that doesn't mean that our challenges are the same.
I'm bi and frankly think there is still a lot if homophobia within the bi community. Why on earth shouldn't lesbians be allowed to have their own spaces without having to deal with men turning up just because they're married to a bi woman?
Similar to the issues with the trans community, there are issues in the bi one and the answer is to address those and discuss them instead of getting defensive and shooting the (often LG) messenger.
For example, I think that unicorn hunting (where a couple seeks a bi/lesbian woman just to play out threesome fantasies) is exceedingly common and beyond inappropriate when aimed at lesbians. I know from my lesbian friends that they're often approached by male/female couples on dating apps. How is this different from a man doing it?
We need to call out the crap in our own communities instead of calling genuine issues biphobia.

If you and pp above, feel more attracted to women than men... why are you with a man?

Just out of curiosity
I am lesbian so I do often wonder, why you haven't seeked a relationship with a woman over a man?

Just totally it of curiosity

If you are more into women rhan men, does your partner know and not feel they are holding you back?

I totally agree with this.

I'm bi and my attraction to women far outweighs my attraction to men.

But I've also exclusively been in relationships with men.

Straight people have real trouble understanding how I KNOW I'm bi if I've mostly been with men (same way you know you're not!), and gay/lesbian people think I'm a charlatan.

Queer culture is meant to be all about inclusivity but it seems like you're saying unless you fit neatly into either the gay or lesbian box, you're not welcome?

Okay then accept if no one wants this enough to set it up, it will not exist.

Groups tend to come together when there is a clearly identified need. I suspect the need for a gender critical bisexual group is just not high enough. You could still get involved in LGB alliance which seems more bisexual people and straight allies than lesbian and gay people.

News of it would get out. I like not receiving hate male§ and not being hounded out of my job.

§ I'm leaving that typo because it's very apt.

I'm bisexual, married to a man and have dated women in the past. I've never felt part of the community, but even less so now I'm in a heterosexual relationship. I wouldn't feel the need to attend an event with my husband, because I'm in a straight relationship and I feel it's nothing to do with me. I can see why others may be upset by people who do. Being bi isn't something that dominates my thoughts, it's just there in the background. I'm still allowed to identify as bisexual without being in the community.

Set one up then? There seem to be plenty of bisexual people in the LGB alliance you could advertise to?

Good luck finding a gender critical bisexual group. They simply don't exist.

@TempestTost I agree, I know a man in his sixties who says he is bisexual. Never had any sexual experiences with men ever, not one. Has been married to his wife in a monogamous relationship for about 35 years. Realistically what does he have in common with gay men over and above what any man would have?

Lots of things are conjecture. Again, what is your point?

I was suggesting that a variety of cultural changes could mean that some people who in the past didn't really think of themselves as bisexual, do now.

I'm basing this on what I see with young people in particular, up into their 20s. A passing attraction, maybe going out on a date once with someone of the same sex, a bit of experimentation - these things in the past didn't tend to result in people thinking of themselves as bisexual if that's all there was to it. But it does now, even if they subsequently settle into heterosexual relationships only.

Even older women who might feel some sexual attraction to some other women, if that didn't include romantic attraction, tended not to think of themselves as bisexual.

I think the landscape with that has changed and it means, in part, that there is a group of people who probably would never really have been involved in LGB groups before - even under the b - who may be appearing now.

Exactly!

@Toolardy why should you be included everywhere?
Do you really think a lesbian and bi women's group should welcome your male partner?

My controversial opinion is that bisexual women in relationships with men are so used to being welcomed anywhere without question, that finding one or two lesbian groups do not welcome them is a total shock.
And I agree, most groups are for lesbian and bi women. So to say there are none that welcome you will simply not be true. And gay pubs will even welcome you with your male partner.

No that is you. Lesbians and Gay men fought for years against exclusion and now that is exactly what you want to do to bisexuals or their possible straight partners.

@KnutsfordCityLimits I agree. But that is what the bisexual people who were involved wanted.
Every community that wants something has to organise it. If you want a bisexual feminist or activist type group you need to organise it.

I wasn't in the UK at that time. I should have clarified that, perhaps. Although I was in a country known to be accepting. Probably should not have commented on this thread. It goes against just getting on with life. :) Have a good afternoon.

@Pluvia the different bi groups had banners at London Pride. They also had national events and local groups.

Yeah I think that's what I was referring to as well. It seemed mainly around sex rather than around feminism, activism and community more generally.