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Actor in lead role of 'Emilia Perez' has received nomination for Best Actress

161 replies

Grammarnut · 24/01/2025 09:25

Karla Garcia Gascon has been nominated for Best Actress. Karla is a transwoman. This thread has been taken down twice. Hat trick, anyone?

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IsadoraQuagmire · 24/01/2025 12:27

MummytoE · 24/01/2025 11:34

Previous thread was taken down because it wasn't " in the spirit of Mumsnet". I thought the point of forums etc was to hear different opinions and foster discussions. This reaks of censorship.

I thought the "spirit of mumsnet" was to be helpful and kind to posters with a problem, and generally supportive to other women (like the ones who have lost the opportunity to be nominated for/win an award because a cheating male has taken the prize instead)

Chersfrozenface · 24/01/2025 11:59

INeedAPensieve · 24/01/2025 11:30

I'm actually shocked this was in the guardian!!!

Ditto.

AlisonDonut · 24/01/2025 11:56

What is important in life is not what you can say, but what you can't.

MummytoE · 24/01/2025 11:34

Previous thread was taken down because it wasn't " in the spirit of Mumsnet". I thought the point of forums etc was to hear different opinions and foster discussions. This reaks of censorship.

Brefugee · 24/01/2025 11:30

IsadoraQuagmire · 24/01/2025 11:05

Why on earth would they take the threads down?

They'd be better off concentrating their efforts on fixing the site issues, imo

We will see. The chance to award a 62 year old woman at her first nomination or a trans woman. Their woke brains will implode (only joking, nobody in Hollywood GAF about older women)

INeedAPensieve · 24/01/2025 11:30

CorruptedCauldron · 24/01/2025 10:31

“Oscars groupthink pushes Emilia Perez, the weakest nominee, to a record-breaking lead.”

Interesting article here:

www.theguardian.com/film/2025/jan/23/oscars-groupthink-pushes-emilia-perez-the-weakest-nominee-to-a-record-breaking-lead

I'm actually shocked this was in the guardian!!!

Hoppinggreen · 24/01/2025 11:30

shayri · 24/01/2025 11:03

Demi Moore, who has spent 62 years living
as a biological woman, should win
this award. But I suspect the oscar's will do their
usual political nonsense of virtue signalling
and right now, just after Trump, is the perfect time for them to bang their progressive drums. And what's worse is that the losers in this category will undoubtedly band together to applaud this, to perform their virtue. I really really hope
I'm wrong.

If the other women lose they will all say how glad they are and if one of them wins they will probably dedicate the win to this person.
Nobody will dare express anything that utter joy over the whole thing, wouldn't dare

Beowulfa · 24/01/2025 11:26

I assume threads have been pulled for correct sex pronoun usage.

It's not like there's any quantifiable logic used in the process of deciding. How could you choose between Frances McDormand (3 Billboards) or Margot Robbie (I, Tonya) to give one example (2018)?

Ralph Fiennes has never won. They had to give Lauren Bacall an "honorary" one when she was in her 80s.

So if Ms Dainty-Shoulders wins it with the help of Cher's old vocoder, it will be like 1970 Best Picture winner "Patton"; on the list but nobody actually remembers it or watches it.

shayri · 24/01/2025 11:14

I hope you're right @TheCatsTongue

Arran2024 · 24/01/2025 11:13

They didn't win at the Golden Globes - the film won big and the trans actress dominated the speeches, but that was for the film, not the best actress award. But of course Trump is now in place and imo it could go either way - sticking two fingers up to Trump or recognising that the bubble has burst. Whatever, I don't think it will be based purely on performance.

TheCatsTongue · 24/01/2025 11:07

shayri · 24/01/2025 11:03

Demi Moore, who has spent 62 years living
as a biological woman, should win
this award. But I suspect the oscar's will do their
usual political nonsense of virtue signalling
and right now, just after Trump, is the perfect time for them to bang their progressive drums. And what's worse is that the losers in this category will undoubtedly band together to applaud this, to perform their virtue. I really really hope
I'm wrong.

Don't be so sure. The Oscars typically give awards to films about Hollywood and it is usually decided that someone (like Demi Moore) should be given the award to celebrate their lifetime achievements. The Oscars usually decide that it is someone's time to finally win an award.

And there are tremendous amounts of money spent on lobbying, the Oscars don't have much love for Netflix, so I wouldn't be surprised either way.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/01/2025 11:05

I hope they get Ricky Gervais to do the speeches again.

Hahaha can you imagine!

IsadoraQuagmire · 24/01/2025 11:05

Why on earth would they take the threads down?

Iloveshihtzus · 24/01/2025 11:04

I hope they win - and I get to see all the other nominees and the women who lost out on a nomination, earning their stripes as an actress by being ‘so happy for them’.

But as already said - who cares what happens. It’s the Oscars, the last time I even tuned in to the red carpet was when Joan Rivers was commenting. My DC don’t follow who is nominated; I don’t think the Oscars is within a continent of the Zeitgeist, as this ‘groundbreaking 🙄’ nomination shows.

shayri · 24/01/2025 11:03

Demi Moore, who has spent 62 years living
as a biological woman, should win
this award. But I suspect the oscar's will do their
usual political nonsense of virtue signalling
and right now, just after Trump, is the perfect time for them to bang their progressive drums. And what's worse is that the losers in this category will undoubtedly band together to applaud this, to perform their virtue. I really really hope
I'm wrong.

ArabellaScott · 24/01/2025 11:00

I hope they get Ricky Gervais to do the speeches again.

CocoapuffPuff · 24/01/2025 10:57

It's just virtue signalling and pandering. These types of affairs have always done it. Will always do it. It means sod all. Just another group of self satisfied and self indulgent narcissistic ersewipes giving a bit of metal to someone in their tribe.

Westfacing · 24/01/2025 10:54

It reminds me of when Caitlyn Jenner was 'Woman of the Year'

CorruptedCauldron · 24/01/2025 10:54

There can be no sense of achievement in winning something if your work is not being judged on its merit, but is instead being used as a means to stick two fingers up at a president.

Shortshriftandlethal · 24/01/2025 10:50

Hollywood tries to hit back at Trump win.

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 24/01/2025 10:49

Not having seen the film, I have no idea whether this person is an absolutely outstanding actor, who deserves an Oscar nomination, or not. Assuming they are, then I suppose it would have been even more controversial for the academy to place them in the male category. I have some sympathy with the academy.

Arran2024 · 24/01/2025 10:47

I saw Nicole Kidman in Babygirl last week and am bemused that she lost out to a man. Of course, media and entertainment is one of the big industries overwhelmingly accepting of trans ideology. The BAFTAS have done the same. I wonder how women in the industry feel about seeing women pushed out to celebrate a man.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/01/2025 10:42

Well done to Bradshaw for commenting on the politics. I always liked his reviews. He doesn't seem to think Gascon will win best actress, despite that, which I think is interesting.

TheCatsTongue · 24/01/2025 10:42

Not going to lose any sleep knowing that multi-millionaire Angelina Jolie lost out on a nomination because a transwoman was nominated.

Our problem is thinking that the Oscars (were attendees get given goodie bags worth £100k+) have any effect on society. Did the year all the actresses wore black for MeToo stop worldwide sexism? Did the year people wore a dress multiple times stop climate change?

CorruptedCauldron · 24/01/2025 10:31

“Oscars groupthink pushes Emilia Perez, the weakest nominee, to a record-breaking lead.”

Interesting article here:

www.theguardian.com/film/2025/jan/23/oscars-groupthink-pushes-emilia-perez-the-weakest-nominee-to-a-record-breaking-lead