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Horrifying Republican response to Bishop's sermon

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JessaWoo · 22/01/2025 03:20

These are tweets from Matt Walsh on X about Bishop Marian Budde and her sermon earlier today in Washington, attacking her womanhood and ability in a sexist and ageist tirade. It seems the clarion call has gone out to the rest of the Trump X minions, as they are all tweeting the same sentiments - including Kellie-Jay Keen and Donald Trump Jnr. Rep. Mike Collins całłed for her deportation, although she is American. Do you still support Trump after this?

“A liberal woman over the age of 50 with a lesbian haircut is guaranteed to support the most evil ideas and policies that mankind has ever conceived.”

“Just take one look at this witch and you know everything you need to know about her, even before she starts talking.”

“Of course this grotesque display is coming from a female “priest.” You will only ever hear heresy and inanity from someone whose whole existence is blasphemous.”

And another tweet from Bo Loudon: “🚨BREAKING: A bishop at the National Cathedrol just urged President Trump to protect transgender children and not deport illegal aliens because "they're not criminals."

Pure class from President Trump as he sat through this despicable politicization of the prayer service.”

Speech text:
““In the Name of our God, I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared now,” Budde stated. “There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in Democratic, Republican and independent families. Some who fear for their lives.

”The people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meat-packing plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals. They may not be citizens, or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals.”

Budde asked Trump “to have mercy” on people “in our communities whose children fear that their parents will be taken away and that you help those who are fleeing warzones and persecution in their own lands to find compassion and welcome here.

“Our God teaches us that we are to be merciful to the stranger, for we were all once strangers in this land,” she continued. “May God grant us the strength and courage to honor the dignity of every human being, to speak the truth to one another in love, and walk humbly with each other and our God.”

Earlier in her message, Budde stressed the importance of unity, of respectfully disagreeing with one another, but also expressed concern over what she called “the culture of contempt” and feared “the loss of equality” for some who lose in political debates.

What a horrible, divisive message this is! 🙄 Personally, I think Budde's message is courageous and beautiful, and clearly deeply Christian at its core.

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AlisonDonut · 22/01/2025 06:41

JessaWoo · 22/01/2025 06:35

@AlisonDonut

These people that have just started the end of the child mutilation and sterilisation regime/network/programme? Yeah, real disgraceful and cruel.

Have they? I hadn't head that. I know about the sexes EO, obviously, but isn't this somewhat further off?

Yes. That is what this is the START of, hence saying they have STARTED the process. In that this STARTS it. And the rest is somewhat farther off. Imagine a journey and to be able to go to your destination you first need a means of transport.

Maybe instead of just ranting you take a moment to parse what this is actually about.

AlisonDonut · 22/01/2025 06:38

KJK retweeted someone else's tweet (David Santa Carla - "This made my blood boil. Absolutely repulsive!") about the Bishop's speech with her own comments. KJK is from the UK and increasingly a Trump fan. That's why.

Her own comment which was that she thought it was a satire.

So you don't understand how social media marketing works?
By referencing, do you mean links?

Yes, as I explained how it works, and there were no links in your OP.

What a silly thing to say. Are you attempting to stop people from agreeing with me? That's a bit shit, Alison.

Good grief.

JessaWoo · 22/01/2025 06:35

@AlisonDonut

These people that have just started the end of the child mutilation and sterilisation regime/network/programme? Yeah, real disgraceful and cruel.

Have they? I hadn't head that. I know about the sexes EO, obviously, but isn't this somewhat further off?

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JessaWoo · 22/01/2025 06:32

Sorry for the bold fail.

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JessaWoo · 22/01/2025 06:31

@AlisonDonut

Why did you include KJK at all if her tweet wasn't one of the horrific responses?

KJK retweeted someone else's tweet (David Santa Carla - "This made my blood boil. Absolutely repulsive!") about the Bishop's speech with her own comments. KJK is from the UK and increasingly a Trump fan. That's why.

X works by something being posted and then people responding to it, so what you are describing as 'coordinated' seems to be a range of people responding in ways that are anything from 'huh I thought that was satire' to, well, whatever else you say they responded as you haven't actually referenced any of that which you posted.
So you don't understand how social media marketing works?
By referencing, do you mean links?

Some might say posting this on MN and having a load of TRAs immediately respond agreeing with you is 'coordinated' and TRA affiliated acolytes being sent out at roughly the same time to say the same thing.
What a silly thing to say. Are you attempting to stop people from agreeing with me? That's a bit shit, Alison.

Awkward.
Yep.

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AlisonDonut · 22/01/2025 06:30

Jacquette · 22/01/2025 06:10

“Some might say posting this on MN and having a load of TRAs immediately respond agreeing with you is 'coordinated…”

I posted the first response and I’m not a TRA.

I had to look TRA up to make sure it meant what I thought it meant.

I care about all the things that Bishop preached.

Yeah that was my point. Well done ✅

AlisonDonut · 22/01/2025 06:29

AllEndeavour · 22/01/2025 06:19

What a brave woman. I hope she is not physically in danger. How these people can be so cruel yet call themselves Christians. Disgraceful.

These people that have just started the end of the child mutilation and sterilisation regime/network/programme? Yeah, real disgraceful and cruel.

AllEndeavour · 22/01/2025 06:19

What a brave woman. I hope she is not physically in danger. How these people can be so cruel yet call themselves Christians. Disgraceful.

mantaraya · 22/01/2025 06:14

I'm horrified by Trump and disgusted (but not surprised) by the comments towards this Bishop. However saying LGBT people "fear for their lives" is fearmongering and polarising. It's also pretty rich given the church's history of homophobia. There are plenty of other things that could have been mentioned such as Trump's plans to drastically reduce foreign aid / pulling out of the WHO which really will threaten people's lives.

Jacquette · 22/01/2025 06:10

“Some might say posting this on MN and having a load of TRAs immediately respond agreeing with you is 'coordinated…”

I posted the first response and I’m not a TRA.

I had to look TRA up to make sure it meant what I thought it meant.

I care about all the things that Bishop preached.

AlisonDonut · 22/01/2025 05:56

JessaWoo · 22/01/2025 05:49

@AlisonDonut

What do you mean 'obviously coordinated'?
What is wrong with KJK's response that you tried to imply was 'horrific'?

Alison, re-read the OP. 'Horrific' does not refer to KJK's tweet by itself. It refers to the coordinated amount of tweets from Trump affiliated acolytes that were sent out at roughly the same time saying the same thing.

Why did you include KJK at all if her tweet wasn't one of the horrific responses?

X works by something being posted and then people responding to it, so what you are describing as 'coordinated' seems to be a range of people responding in ways that are anything from 'huh I thought that was satire' to, well, whatever else you say they responded as you haven't actually referenced any of that which you posted.

Some might say posting this on MN and having a load of TRAs immediately respond agreeing with you is 'coordinated' and TRA affiliated acolytes being sent out at roughly the same time to say the same thing.

Awkward.

SecretSoul · 22/01/2025 05:55

I’m not a Trump supporter and I remain utterly dismayed that he was voted back into power.

But I also think that our children need protecting from harmful gender ideology and that suggesting that “trans children” fear for their lives is unhelpful rhetoric.

i would never have voted for the orange clown but his willingness to undo gender brainwashing is the only tiny bit of brightness in a very big, black cloud.

JessaWoo · 22/01/2025 05:49

@AlisonDonut

What do you mean 'obviously coordinated'?
What is wrong with KJK's response that you tried to imply was 'horrific'?

Alison, re-read the OP. 'Horrific' does not refer to KJK's tweet by itself. It refers to the coordinated amount of tweets from Trump affiliated acolytes that were sent out at roughly the same time saying the same thing.

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JessaWoo · 22/01/2025 05:45

mids2019 · 22/01/2025 05:11

At the end of the day a country of 300 million people have made their decision democratically on a president. Obviously some do not like his policies but for a woman of the cloth to so publically politicise a speech to embarrass a sitting democratically elected leader was wrong. Imagine if Keir Starmer visited a hospital and the CEO in a speech basically called him shit; he or she would lose their job.

If no one else can, or feels they have the bravery to do so - who else can?

While I am not religious, I have so much respect for this woman for standing up for those who cannot in such an environment. As women, we should be applauding that, not adding to the jeers.

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AlisonDonut · 22/01/2025 05:39

JessaWoo · 22/01/2025 05:37

@AlisonDonut

She said 'I assumed this was a skit, a stitched video…. But it’s actual real.'
Horrifying apparently. According to the OP.

I'm referring to the obviously coordinated response. That's horrifying.

What do you mean 'obviously coordinated'?

What is wrong with KJK's response that you tried to imply was 'horrific'?

JessaWoo · 22/01/2025 05:39

unwashedanddazed · 22/01/2025 04:19

Pretty uncharitable remarks about her, but why are you blaming Trump for what these people are saying? None of them were shrinking violets before yesterday. I'm sure they speak entirely for themselves.

The weird TDS on this board at the moment is getting hysterical. Calm the fuck down!

I'm blaming Trump as the directive to tweet almost exactly the same thing obviously came from him - or are you naive?

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JessaWoo · 22/01/2025 05:37

@AlisonDonut

She said 'I assumed this was a skit, a stitched video…. But it’s actual real.'
Horrifying apparently. According to the OP.

I'm referring to the obviously coordinated response. That's horrifying.

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Danja2010 · 22/01/2025 05:24

mids2019 · 22/01/2025 05:11

At the end of the day a country of 300 million people have made their decision democratically on a president. Obviously some do not like his policies but for a woman of the cloth to so publically politicise a speech to embarrass a sitting democratically elected leader was wrong. Imagine if Keir Starmer visited a hospital and the CEO in a speech basically called him shit; he or she would lose their job.

Well she is getting very positive press and deserves so . She was brave to say what she said and it was something Trump needed to hear .

Danja2010 · 22/01/2025 05:22

wobblyweewoman · 22/01/2025 03:44

I thought it was embarrassing for her. Transgender people fear for their lives? Irresponsible hyperbole.

Are you joking ? This is in America where it is awash with guns !!! It was a beautiful sermon.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 22/01/2025 05:17

Danja2010 · 22/01/2025 05:10

They do pay taxes because they do get paid using false SS numbers.

They actually file using an individual tax payer identification number.

Not false or stolen SS numbers.

mids2019 · 22/01/2025 05:11

At the end of the day a country of 300 million people have made their decision democratically on a president. Obviously some do not like his policies but for a woman of the cloth to so publically politicise a speech to embarrass a sitting democratically elected leader was wrong. Imagine if Keir Starmer visited a hospital and the CEO in a speech basically called him shit; he or she would lose their job.

Danja2010 · 22/01/2025 05:10

AlisonDonut · 22/01/2025 04:29

That wasn't the whole speech was it...

'They may not be citizens, or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals.”

You missed out the next line which was 'they pay taxes'.

They won't pay taxes will they? What with being undocumented and all. That's the point.

They do pay taxes because they do get paid using false SS numbers.

Ponderingwindow · 22/01/2025 05:05

AlisonDonut · 22/01/2025 04:29

That wasn't the whole speech was it...

'They may not be citizens, or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals.”

You missed out the next line which was 'they pay taxes'.

They won't pay taxes will they? What with being undocumented and all. That's the point.

Taxes are taken out of paychecks.

people paid under the table in cash don’t pay taxes.

Editing because I was wrong and the irs actually has a system in place for anyone earning a certain amount income in the United States to file a tax return, regardless of their legal status .

AlisonDonut · 22/01/2025 04:59

quixote9 · 22/01/2025 04:56

They do pay taxes. The employers deduct the payroll taxes (Social Security, medicare, unemployment, and any others I've forgotten) from their wages before paying those out. I think, not sure about this, because otherwise the employers would get in trouble with the Internal Revenue Service and have to pay the worker's payroll tax as well as their own, the employer's, share of it. The workers never see a penny of any of it, of course. For instance, the extra money Social Security has from undocumented workers is in the hundreds of billions and helps toward keeping it solvent. Pretty smooth scam, isn't it?

People without documents do not get into a tax system.

Some may get some taxes taken out. But if they are UNdocumented they are not in the system. That is the whole point.