Horrifying Republican response to Bishop's sermon

Even the biased report linked had to say 'some people pay some tax'.

Often underneath this statement they actually mean the tax they pay when they purchase something. Framing everything you don't like as racist instead of addressing the actual issue is what led us here.

I'm currently living in the 4th country that I've lived in, I know a little about getting into a system.

Many GC women don’t believe there’s such a thing as a “trans child” and labelling them as such seeks to reinforce and validate gender ideology, which we consider deeply harmful to children.

If she had used a more generic phrase such as “ vulnerable children”, that would have been fine.

Also, there are not “high rates of suicide” among the trans community. This is a myth that’s often repeated and multiple suicide charities have implored people to stop saying this because it’s not true and is damaging.

I agree under Trump’s government there will be many people who fear for their lives. His rhetoric amplifies division and hate, and he emboldens racist, xenophobic individuals. ” Trans children” don’t need a special mention in this. He’s not seeking to gun them down or remove them from the country.

Autistic girls make up a large proportion of “trans” youths, so as an autistic woman myself, I care very much about these children. I completely understand how difficult they may find the world. I just don’t agree that labelling them as trans or singling them out is helpful or the best way forward for anyone.

I personally could never have voted for Trump. I flit between anger and absolute dismay that he’s been allowed to even run for office. I can’t even look at his face on TV, I’m so unbelievably upset that he’s President again. But I understand, like in the U.K., gender identity was the primary concern for some voters and if that’s the case, it’s no wonder the Democrats lost. The trouble is that in the US there’s not any alternative- it’s the presentation of two extremes. He’s an awful man who’s corrupt to the core and he has awful, hateful policies. I’m deeply uncomfortable that he’s the one who’s willing to recognise biological reality and I wish more than anything that the Democrats could have seen the damage that was being inflicted.

Should people be abusing the bishop? No. Of course they can express dismay at her choice of groups to specifically highlight in that particular occasion, if she chose to focus on those groups specifically and not also a range of others. What other groups did she include? But she should not be abused for her decision.

On the other hand, whoever chose to include her in that ceremony, knew of her political views as she has been publicly vocal. So this inclusion in her section of the proceedings should not have been unexpected.

However, no one should be abusing her.

Well there’s your problem isn’t it? You think that agreements on some things equals “support”. It doesn’t. It means agreement on one thing. In this case biological reality. Probably also water makes things wet. And the sky is blue. This is not general “support” for an individual.

If you have seen more than this for Trump, you should direct your generic “you” more specifically to those people.

I thought she was incredibly brave.

I wouldn't normally agree with a person of the cloth politicising a speech, but neither should a politician claim he is the chosen one, saved by God to carry out God’s will. That is incredibly dangerous talk - terrifying in fact - and it needed calling out - and publicly.

Trump looked momentarily uncomfortable beneath his arrogant scowl. And his reaction shows he was riled. So it was a job well done.

Undocumented people do pay tax. Check your facts before spouting racist rhetoric

America appears to be shuffling towards Handmaid's Tale.

and have a high rate of suicide

This is categorically not true.

Which posts did I deliberately misunderstand?

And I'm discussing things aren't I? If you don't understand the inference I made then i am happy to explain it. You only have to ask.

Why can't you tell us what was so horrific about KJKs actual words? You brought her up, so have the gumption to explain why her words were so horrific.

I'm not denying they're undocumented. Just mentioning the fact that they do get taxes taken out of their wages. As another commenter mentioned, if paid in cash totally under the table, then indeed, no taxes taken out. The majority of undocumented aren't paid that way. They work for large businesses. (Anyway, what were we talking about here? Oh yes, the cleric speaking. Good for her for speaking up. Yes, not many trans people in the areas where they really might get shot on sight. Women are in much greater danger always and everywhere. Also from the magats who aren't doing any of this two-sexes stuff because they want women to be safe and free. Oh well. Only another four or five hundred years to wait, right?)

I expect more of this rhetoric from trump and maga supporters. It’s a far right ideology and they’ve only just got started.

I agree with you OP. Ugly times ahead of his last term and promises are anything to go by.

I stopped taking any notice of anything KJK said or did a while ago. Not because I'm a TRA, but because I’m a second generation immigrant and her message and friends alienate me.

Why is saying “trans children fear for their lives” such a difficult statement to accept? There always has been and always will be incredible vulnerable children fitting into this demographic. They are children. And whether or not they are ‘truly trans’ or brainwashed or whatever, they are extremely vulnerable and have a high rate of suicide. And there is a big gun culture of hate. I think they quite possibly are fearing for their lives. Compassion to help these children, however you see that, shouldn’t be disregarded and dismissed.

I also find it concerning when gender critical people disregard all the other disgusting things spoken purely because of agreeing with gender ideology.

This 💯👏

You said yourself it looked like a coordinated backlash. Meaning a bunch of bots. I’m pretty sure than when someone disables the bots the internet will just turn out to be a bunch of people sharing cat videos

Did you go on X and say that to all of them? Because I fail to see what link any of this has to FWR.

Saying children can be transsexuals is not compassion.

She wasn’t “politicising” anything. She was asking him to show compassion and mercy for human beings she thinks are vulnerable. Compassion and mercy are supposed to be Christian values, so as a Christian minister she is surely entitled to ask the most powerful person in the country to have compassion and mercy. After all, Trump claims to be a Christian.

A hospital CEO calling Starmer a shit is not an equivalent situation. A better example would be him speaking against a Starmer policy that he thought would damage the hospital.

Do you still support Trump after this?

Who is “you” and what is meant by “support”? Because all I’ve seen is agreement with one particular executive order he signed.

I have called them cruel and disgraceful for attacking someone who has simply asked for mercy for people she sees being demonised. Calling her a witch for example.is awful, when all she asks is for them to show some compassion.

KJK retweeted someone else's tweet (David Santa Carla - "This made my blood boil. Absolutely repulsive!") about the Bishop's speech with her own comments. KJK is from the UK and increasingly a Trump fan. That's why.

Incidentally when she said she thought it was satire, you don't know whether she was indeed referring to Davids tweet, or the original clip, or the context of the speech. You made your own assumption and then posted that her response was 'horrific'.

And maybe you need to stop following all these people that you find horrific on X.