Labour councillor quits party over puberty blocker ban

Don't count on it, people in my ward not only re-elected the councillor who did sod all, they also voted his wife in as councillor number 2 for the area. Independents, because "anything is better than Liebour" and "over my dead body would I vote for the Tories"

(I didn't vote for either of them and they have continued to do sod all)

It an interesting article. The space given to the rational and scientific aspect to the story is as large, if not larger, than the reporting of the tantrum. And the pro-puberty blockers “argument” is not really presented at all.

It’s almost as though “operation let them speak” was being employed at the BBC.

But maybe I’m just being too optimistic.

I've always read it as a threat. Like, "You can't self organise or form groups without the T."

Quite where these people think they get off, I don't know. As if anyone needs trans people's permission to form groups without them. The audacity is really quite impressive.

I read on here that people with DSDs formally said to Stonewall that they don't want to be included any more and now Stonewall has had to update their website to say that they no longer represent 'intersex' people.
I've noticed that the 'i' has quietly been dropped from LGBTI. Why hasn't there been more media coverage of this?

Yes what it basically says is "our group is going to hold your group to ransom unless we're included".

This irritates me and i know it is a somewhat minor point,but: "no LGB with out the T". No, they are different things,and what you mean, at best, is "No LGBT without the T." You can't argue the case,so you go for emotional manipulation and try to piggy back on something different so the public at large don't ask questions.

Question is why the BBC decided this tantrum was newsworthy.

Ooh, Miss, Miss! I know the answer to this, Miss!

amazing. or, maybe not, given that if you actually believe people can change sex then, de facto, your grip on reality is shaky at best.

Puberty blockers have been banned for dysphoria since March 2024 now. Despite all the crazy claims that there would be blood in the streets, and despite the cardboard coffins being delivered to Wes Streeting's office, we haven't actually seen an increase in suicides at all. I'm sure it would have been front page news had a single case occurred.

It's interesting to see that the TRA line has changed now, and instead of threatening suicide the new threat is an increase in self harm. By this time next year maybe the things they threaten will be downgraded even further.

I remember Susie Green bringing up the suicide risk in every single interview. It's looking more and more as if this pillar of TRA ideology was entirely made up.

My local council is like this. It's been the same couple of families on the borough council for 30 years. Only the first names of the councillors change.

Imagine this being your line in the sand.

So she’s flouncing because Labour won’t support harming children? Good riddance.

How dare you insult her myriad Zoes ?

But , on a more serious note : why isn't she joining the Greens I wonder? Perhaps even the GP is edging back to reality and doesn't meet her purity test anymore.

What a tit. Hope she doesn't have any children.

Does zoe represent a university area? If not hopefully the next election will see someone with more sense take over.

It's only other people's speech they wants to control, duh.

Another 'shroud waver', a pity she wasn't asked to back up her hysterical statement with evidence.

This part from the Labour council leader might be telling though

"I respect that decision, however, people should not underestimate the level of commitment required to be a councillor and to be a member of a political group." (my bolding - in other words get with the program or get thee gone)

I wonder if she tried to get the other Labour councillors to support her stand and got a big fat NO for an answer, which is why she took herself off with a flounce.

I know Mr Menno finds the 'no LGB without the T' trope offensive, he thinks it's a way of erasing the L's, G's and B's from existence, so on behalf of Mr Menno I object to her mindset.

Also if she insists on being a They/Them how come her quotes are full of I's and me's, shouldn't she be referring to herself as we's. Enquiring minds want to know.

Lol, I sometimes wonder if these lunatics use the pronouns they/them just to sound like they're not just a lone nutter. 😂

we have, what, 15,000 councillors in this country? 20,000? still, I'm sure she'll be missed.

Good on her for sticking to her principles. It’s obviously a shame that those principles support the sterilisation and lifelong medicalisation of children, but hey, I do appreciate the concept of having courage in your convictions.

This ⬆️

I would also flag that Zoe's principles include supporting a completely unknown, but highly likely permanently damaging, impact on children's brains - assuming this support includes the administration of PBs from Tanner stage two until the end of the window in which the natural development of secondary sex characteristics would be expected to finish. There's no point in using PBs for gender dysphoria if it doesn't include this whole window.

Whilst it's disappointing to see a wishy washy quote being used (my bold) by the BBC...

"prescribing puberty blockers to children for the purposes of gender dysphoria represents an unacceptable safety risk in the current prescribing environment"

... the inclusion of this article at the end as a related article made me laugh out loud. The headline alone leaves the question "why on earth did you resign over this?!" hanging in the air.

Silly woman.

Hughes said there would be "increasing self-harm" as a result of the decision on puberty blockers in "an already vulnerable and marginalised group".

Which of course ‘they’ll’ be able to back up with figures pulled from someone’s arse robust and verifiable stats in due course.