Almost two thirds of tw prisoners are sex offenders

I certainly do not believe this to be the case nowadays and in the UK, but might still be true in other places, such as Puerto Rico, Brazil and other South American countries. In any case, as with the 'life expectancy one, these stats are not extrapolable

I think the implication of the tweet was that prostitution, although a sex offence, was not something that (to that tweeter) would imply a higher level of risk among transwomen prisoners as compared to non-trans male sex offenders. The obvious response is that all men are a higher level of risk to women than other women are, and transwomen are men, but I was wondering if there was a better response than that.

As PPs indicate, money for sex services isn't illegal/criminal in the UK but there are some restrictions.

The exchange of sexual services for money is legal in the UK (apart from in Northern Ireland where it's illegal to pay for sex).
But, these related activities are illegal under the Sexual Offences Act 2003:

• soliciting (trying to get clients) on the street or other public place, including someone in a vehicle
• paying for the services of a sex worker who's forced or threatened into it
• owning or managing a brothel (any premises which is used by more than one person for sex work)
• pimping (someone who has control over sex workers and the money they earn)
• advertising sexual services, including putting cards in phone boxes

https://www.cityoflondon.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/sw/sex-worker-safety/#:~:text=The%20exchange%20of%20sexual%20services,including%20someone%20in%20a%20vehicle

For solicitation, I don't know about convictions and sentencing but, according to Statista:

There were 184 offences of soliciting for prostitution recorded in England and Wales in 2023/24, with the number in this year the fewest offences for this type of crime recorded in the provided time period. Compared with 2002/03 when there were 2,111 offences recorded, this type of crime has fallen substantially in recent years.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/283114/recorded-soliciting-for-prostitution-offences-in-england-and-wales-uk/

Jo Phoenix's thread is brilliant. The only riposte to it that I saw earlier today that I wondered how to counter was the tweeter who said that prostitution was counted as a sex offence but those offences weren't singled out among the transwomen prisoners.

Great summary by Prof Jo Phoenix about this: x.com/jophoenix1/status/1874087232325161210?s=46&t=0bg1Lo75jVK7TbEnbYzGDw

The next step on from gay for the stay but comes with the bonus of abusing women and getting special treatment

i guess

Is this a variation on conviction/sentencing onset GD?

Prison Onset Gender Dysphoria - isn't it?

Isn't strange that the rates of sex offenders declaring as trans went up massively when policies came into being potentially allowing them to transfer to women's prisons?

I'm sure if there were policies that placed aliens in women's prisons there will suddenly be a massive growth in male sex offenders identifying as alien.

Looking at crime more widely than this report, are we allowed to mention serial killers (such as BTK) and crossdressing, or is that verboten?

Logically, it's because I haven't said all men who identify as trans have an antisocial sexual fetish involving boundary violation. I've just said that those who do...

The stats aren't at all surprising. Transvestisn and AGP are fetishes. Fetishes tend to cluster - a man with one is likely to have more, and fetishists are almost exclusively male. For every timid gay gender dysphoric male we're encouraged to welcome there will be a boundary violating voyeur or exhibitionist.

Wow. This hasn't been deleted.

Of course some people will say that it's just mean to make assumptions about people based on the actions of a few bad apples, but isn't that exactly how laws are made?
I'm not a criminologist, but isn't it about analysing patterns of behaviour to try to reduce future crimes and protect the vulnerable?

Five minutes ago everybody knew that men who had an antisocial sexual fetish involving boundary violation would of course be likely to commit sex crimes.

Trying to pretend this is a civil rights issue has sucked up so much time, energy, emotion and money from women, it's unbelievable.

You've missed that transphobia made them do it and it was justified self defence

Please list any that I have missed that we expect to see on this thread.

That you're just saying this because you reeeeeally hate all trans people
(plus all the other drivel that was asserted on the AIBU passport thread the other day)

Thank you Hell

They are conviction rates and only reflect those in prison, if I understand correctly.

I suspect they are figures for the principal offence as you say.

@Helleofabore are those figures only where a conviction has been secured? Presumably yes but just asking to be sure. Also the presentation of the information in that FOI using "principal offence" looks like there might be other data and offences but we can't know from what has been released.

I love how Jo does facts. What did S Hines do because that bit I don’t see?

Goodness. I wonder what those exceptional circumstances might be.