Trans remembrance flags and SNP renews support for LGBTYS

But you didn’t show trans people weren’t marginalised. I’m going to assume you meant that rather than ‘trans activists’.

So when a trans person is a victim they are recorded according to their biological sex, but when they commit a crime, they are recorded according to their gender identity?

This would be more compelling if trans activists hadn't literally tried to stop the UK's only LGB charity from being allowed to exist.

Quite. It's been a non stop mass tantrum ever since it launched.

‘OMG why do you keep showing trans activists are not marginalised even though I keep insisting they are’

It doesn't need to be a competition for people to object to the anti-women's rights agenda pushing and emotional blackmail and hyperbole of it all.

This would be more compelling if trans activists hadn't literally tried to stop the UK's only LGB charity from being allowed to exist.

Omg why does everything have to turn into ‘disabled people are MORE marginalised therefore trans people can’t be marginalised’. What kind of argument even is that?!

Again for the people at the back, it’s not a bloody competition.

That was 2018. And even then possibly not by sex but by ‘self-identified gender’ at the behest of transactivists. Are you saying the coroner would ignore trans identity when investigating their death? And yet we know that of the nine cases the article refers to at least two were murdered by trans partners, one was actually suicide, and motivations included drug debts and an unhappy client of a prostitute.

The issue that discussion point was on, was the recording of trans murders in the UK. Of course these are not recorded accurately as the ONS pointed out, as police forces have been recording by binary sex and not by trans identity.

Trans Day of Remembrance records come from media and people nominating them, not the police. They are likely to be more complete, not less.

Hardly a major issue, though any death is a death too many, of course.

No detail is given about the surveyed population apart from the fact that it involves a US population not a UK one and for ‘unemployed’ includes:

"defined as adults 18 and over who are homemakers, refused work, students, or unable to work”

Which makes it rather important to know whether their sampling technique disproportionately recruited from certain demographics eg by relying on onl8ne surveying via transactivists groups.

However now let’s look at the marginalisation of disabled people in the UK
Employed non-disabled adults 82%
Employed disabled adults 54%

Of if we want to go international, I wonder what the current employment rate for women in Afghanistan is? Unfortunately we can’t ask them.

'Joining the Stonewall Diversity Champion programme in year 3 of
a 4-year strategy is likely to raise questions from other networks regarding
prioritisation of resources'

No shit!

One whole person is paid nearly £60k to promote this pish.

'Total annual costs of £61,040 are comprised as follows:
(i) annual cost of membership is £2,500;
(ii) annual costs of activities to support participation in the Stonewall UK
Workplace Equality Index and implement effective resulting action plan are
estimated to be equivalent to 1 FTE at Grade 8, i.e. £57,540 (salary and
oncosts); and
(iii) attendance at Stonewall training and conference to support our work in
creating an inclusive culture for all and enabling LGBTQ+ employees to
thrive in our workplace is estimated at £1,000 (including travel)'

The issue that discussion point was on, was the recording of trans murders in the UK. Of course these are not recorded accurately as the ONS pointed out, as police forces have been recording by binary sex and not by trans identity.

What a strange list.

https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/ieIssueDetails.aspx

'recurring costs of £61,040' - is that per annum?!

That's included under the trans umbrella, isn't it?

And what, the Real Life Daily Prophet is good old unbiased fun?

Edinburgh City Council's Policy and Sustainability Committee reports:

'The Council joined Stonewall’s Diversity Champions programme in May 2023.'

'Education colleagues are working with LGBT Youth Scotland on how the Council can support young people ahead of Pride 2024'

Show the evidence that what he wrote on this thread is incorrect then.

Malcolm Clark’s always one of the first people I’d look to for good unbiased commentary 🙄

I know FWR is big on perpetuating this false narrative of division within the LGBTQ community, but you will be disappointed to hear that's not what's happening on the ground.

We see the tactics being employed, we're not stupid.

I haven’t looked at reports on housing, but it is known that trans people have much higher rates of unemployment, so yes @SkiingonKaraSea i would say it is happening at the moment. Here’s some research on how trans people are marginalised in London (including in relation to employment):
https://trustforlondon.org.uk/news/census-2021-deep-dive-gender-identity-and-deprivation-in-london/#:~:text=Transgender%20identity%20and%20deprivation,with%20higher%20levels%20of%20deprivation.&text=In%20London's%2010%25%20most%20deprived,the%2010%25%20least%20deprived%20neighbourhoods.

And here’s some McKinsey research on the position in the US vis employment:

https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/sustainable-inclusive-growth/charts/transgender-people-twice-as-likely-to-be-unemployed

A helpful thread by Malcolm Clark.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1768427557425234010.html