Trump's plans for day one: ending child sexual mutilation and having just male and female genders

Who will this impact? Particularly the first paragraph

All government agencies will ensure that official documents, including passports, visas and Global Entry cards, “accurately reflect the holder’s sex,” the executive order says.

Also, departments running federal prisons, migrant shelters, rape shelters and other “intimate spaces” will be directed to protect single-sex spaces for privacy. And employee records will also adhere to the executive order, as will federal departments’ messaging.

"I'm gender critical but". Yeah, we usually know where that's headed.

"No one I know socially bar a few morons believe that entire groups of people should lose their rights or the respect of the public because someone from that group is a criminal."
We know. Criminal activity is infact massively underrepresented in the group of people your social set is happy to see lose their rights.

The whole thing is wonderful, but this bit is the best.

The Executive Order is all we hoped for. Here is an excellent summary.

https://x.com/glennagoldis/status/1881530076917043502?s=61&t=NHDSDk1MaF98_GOtcuLi0Q

And the order completely replaces gender or gender ideology with sex. I’m over the moon.

Kellie Jay Keen-Minshull discussing the origin of her campaigning phrase 'adult human female' that was used in the Trump executive order:

https://www.youtube.com/live/ge5ko2Xv1Ig?feature=shared

Can you explain why stopping male murderers, rapists and paedophiles being placed in federal women’s prisons is a bad thing because Trump has done it?

I'm gender critical but I'm not going to celebrate anything he does. It won't be nuanced at all, he is always misinformed. Elon Musk is a fucking Nazi. This doesn't help the cause one bit because it will just go further the other way when he is out of power / dead. Trump is never the answer for anything and people will read this and say that is Mumsnetters are in league with the devil etc etc.

You're starting from the inaccurate premise that male people have the right to be in female single sex spaces. They do not have that right, not even if they are legally female under the GRA.

So male people do not lose any rights if excluded from female single sex spaces. Under the EA, when women's rights to privacy, dignity and safety are in play, it is always lawful to exclude any and all males from women's single sex spaces and facilities, either on the basis of sex or on the basis of gender reassignment.
The group of people who are losing their rights under GII are women.

Should female prisoners lose their rights to privacy, dignity and safety because they are criminals?

There are something like ten million unique users per month on Mumsnet.

Mostly women.

That's a lot of power, a lot of influence and a lot of votes.

Given trump just won an election where this issue was hugely significant, it's a little daft to claim the MN attitude isn't generally representative!

Don't waste your time trying to goad us. Instead, read the survey that Eresh linked. Then maybe get back to us tomorrow with some reasoned arguments

It probably counts as one of those awful posts with data that she doesn't like.

None of you are making yourselves look good.

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Don't waste your time trying to goad us. Instead, read the survey that Eresh linked. Then maybe get back to us tomorrow with some reasoned arguments

Yes, that post you came in with was soooo reasonable and polite, of course, @LadyGreyson - and then you whinge about the response it received.

Which forums? Link us to them please.

My entire life is a "cosy little clique"?

Well clearly, if they have markedly different views to the majority of the population on this issue, it does suggest you exist in something of an echo chamber, yes.

believe that entire groups of people should lose their rights

Men don't have a "right" to use female spaces. It's not just about safety, it's about basic decency and respect for women and girls.

But just for the avoidance of all doubt, this is what people actually think outside your bubble:

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/SexMattersGenderr241219ZMwbM2T.pdf

What rights do other people have that transgender people don't have?

I think Mumsnet, a site with millions of unique page views weekly, has more "normal people" than your cosy little clique, yes.