Female school shooter?

Just like the fake news that she was trans then I suppose.

Turns out she was just another misanthropic neo-nazi fangirl.

Yes, it looks like fake news that people have fallen for.

Although on further investigation it appears she was wrongly accused and wasn’t actually name dropped!:

knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/radfem-hitler

Not read further yet, but this is an absolutely disgusting question.

How vile can you be?

I had so many blissful days of existence upon this fine earth until the day I discovered there's a Twatter account named RadFemHitler.

Because of course there fucking is.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1868795614491800032.html for those not on twix.

I think I would understand the comment about the shooters sex not mattering as the reaction of someone looking at a pretty horrific incident, where it's over and they are not trying to find some person on the lam or in hiding.

Being faced with that I can see how it might seem to be a poorly placed question. That's not to say I don't think it's important, and I totally agree that reading about it, it's one of the first things I thought of.

But it seems like a shitty thing to be asked directly after dealing with the aftermath.

A Columbine copy-cat. Wow.

She namedropped RadFemHitler which is a misandrist / femcel account more than far right I think.

But seems as much about mental illness as anything else.

Her manifesto and other details were posted by this X account:

x.com/slatzism/status/1868795614491800032?s=46

I don’t think that whatever happened today has anything to do with how she or he or they may have wanted to identify,” he said. “And I wish people would kind of leave their own personal biases out of this

It's so frustrating that so many of the people objecting to people asking if the shooter was trans think it's about people being anti-trans, or caring whether the shooter was trans specifically, when in most cases, it's about trying to translate the media reporting into the actual facts of the case.

If the shooter is reported as female and trans, then anyone who doesn't subscribe to gender identity ideology can understand the case as "reported female + trans = biologically male", but if they aren't trans, they can interpret female = female as gender identity actually isn't relevant in this instance, but there's no way to know which without finding out the trans part of the equation.

It's merely a consequence of the way gender identity is typically reported as if it were the person's sex that people understandably want to check what female actually means to the person reporting the news, especially when violent crimes perpetrated by females are so rare.

If the fact the perpetrator was "female" is of sufficient relevance to report, then it's reasonable for the public to request clarification as to the specific meaning of the word female in this context.

We live in a world where female might mean female or it might mean male, which is what prompts so many people to ask for clarification and bring up transgenderism - not because people are anti-trans but because just stating "female" isn't sufficiently clear any more.

Fundamentalist Christians can be homophobic. This can cause someone to become trans. In fact the parents may push a feminine, possibly one day gay little boy into it.

And therefore risk assessment. Obscuring the sex of the class who commit most of the violent crime will directly impact risk assessment.

Why did you read the thread? Is someone forcing you? There are plenty of other things you could be reading instead?

'Non trans men'!? That would be men then.

People no longer believe the media due to their reluctance to be truthful about the real sex of the offender.

Yes, this. It's a problem.

From other sources, all those four factors appear to have been present in this case.

There were also oblique references to what some have taken to refer to CSA as well.

Personally, I think this girl is likely nearer someone like Brenda Spencer than other female shooters.

In the Audrey Hale case there was a manifesto that they didn’t release at the time. I don’t remember a thread on here at the time the manifesto was released in July this year. The report of it is pretty shocking.

YY.

People no longer believe the media due to their reluctance to be truthful about the real sex of the offender.

The media don't report on the truth due to the pressure by trans activists to call people by their adopted trans identity, and those trans activists can't then start moaning about "trans-investigations" when they've caused the situation in the first place.

There are clearly a lot of male offenders who pretend to be trans (as in they adopt a female persona after being charged), but again the trans activists make us believe everyone is whoever they say they are, and consequently that has created crime statistics that show trans women are much more likely to be violent sex offenders than men.

Essentially this mistrust of the media has been caused by trans activists.

The question, when a proportion of the population commit a proportion of a crime, is whether the sizes of the two proportions match. This is difficult to gauge when there are very few data points.

When it comes to US trans mass shooters, there is insufficient data to make any judgement about proportionality because of the rarity of mass shootings compared to, say, ordinary murder, the rarity of trans people committing these attacks and the low number of trans people in the population.

When it comes to US male mass shooters, the proportion of shooters who are male is far far higher than you'd expect from a sex class that make 50% of the population.

The point of the thread wasn't to cast shade on trans people, but to express dismay that the police and press won't tell the truth about what sex a violent offender is any more. When Myra Hindley was arrested, no one doubted the reports that a woman had jointly murdered multiple children. People were horrified, it might have taken a few minutes for what they were reading to sink in, but they didn't question the reported sex of the offender. Same for Rose West, because until the last decade or so, reporting was by sex. Now, we find ourselves thinking "they say it's a woman, but is it another instance of a man being called 'woman' like Isla Bryson etc?" because it's statistically unlikely that a woman would commit such a crime and we know that the press and police will lie to us.

It's not about trans people, it's about truthful reporting.

It seems that most trans mass shooters are the women who identify as men, @ButterflyHatched so not sure how that's different to what I said, except being clear that biologically female people don't do many shootings whether they have gender identity issues or not.

All trans mass shooters, whether or not they identify as men, are a tiny proportion of the whole. The overwhelming majority are non-trans men.

Is that really not relevant?

if any suspects turn out to actually be trans you can rely on 90% of the mainstream press immediately screaming about it on your behalf so I wouldn't worry about it being 'covered up because of wokeness'

You are right. The press will report it 100% accurately. We can trust them. Can't we...?

The latest example here:
https://www.lancs.live/news/uk-world-news/dangerous-woman-jailed-violent-physical-30578498?int_campaign=organic&int_medium=display&int_source=taboola

In this case, a disaffected 15 year old girl radicalised by the far right

All female mass shooters, whether or not they identify as men, are a tiny proportion of the whole. The overwhelming majority are men.

Is that really not relevant?