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Puberty Suppressing Hormones, House of Commons, Wes Streeting taking a firm and intelligent stand

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ScrollingLeaves · 11/12/2024 14:49

Wes Streeting is doing a good job of calmly holding his own in Parliament on this issue of puberty blockers being banned pending a trial.

Some MPs have been standing up and speaking about ‘trans kids’ and suicide and so on, and how young people currently taking puberty blockers will source drugs from other sources as they will be left so desperate. Certain MPs have shown no inkling of the wider issues concerning gender dysphoria among troubled young people.

WS read out report saying that suicide figures of trans people were skewed, and reporting of it dangerous.

Others have seemed to be more aware. Sir John Hayes has brought up those who were vilified for whistleblowing such as Kathleen Stock, the lives ruined by the Tavistock and how it could have happened? WS has just paid tribute to Hannah Barnes. Women’s concerns.

“I am very disappointed in behalf of our trans children….” Vikki Slade. She says there is no information on suicides for those on a gender waiting list. WS says all child deaths are monitored and reviewed.

Jim Allister asking about parental consent and age for the puberty blocker trial. WS ethical concerns are being taken very seriously.

“A breach of young people’s human rights” Carla Denyer (Green).

Robin Swann County Antrim asking about closing access to puberty blockers through loopholes.

Anyway, it is worth hearing WS. It seems to be the first time someone from Labour, who is allowed to speak, has seemed to have a depth of understanding about gender issues. He also speaks lucidly and with nuance.

I don’t know if he is just very clever, but in the end slippery, or actually someone who will make a difference for the better but was impressed.

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EauNeu · 11/12/2024 18:37

Welcome news but. there's no such thing as trans kids.

The talk about trials of puberty blockers is worrying. I hope and expect that no trial for the use of these drugs on confused children without medical need never gets past any ethics committee.

WarriorN · 11/12/2024 18:33

Omg will HJ finally be allowed on WH??

WarriorN · 11/12/2024 18:33

Oooh thanks, bedtime watching 😍

borntobequiet · 11/12/2024 18:20

The reporter is Nick Triggle, health correspondent, rather than some LBGT etc. person, I think that makes a difference.

biddyboo · 11/12/2024 18:18

We Streeting's response to Sian Berry was superb. The Greens stance on this is shameful, and will definitely come to haunt them in the future.

biddyboo · 11/12/2024 18:15

WinterCrow · 11/12/2024 17:03

The BBC reportly on this fairly, for once in its miserable existence. I can't see a journalist's name attached though - am I missing it?

The BBC reports Wes Streeting calling puberty blockers for gender dysphoric children 'a scandal'.

Indefinite ban on puberty blockers to be introduced

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2z0gx3p5o

Wow and they have quoted Helen Joyce 😮👏🏻

Lovelyview · 11/12/2024 17:08

I was slightly concerned that he still referred to transgender children and seemed to draw parallels with his 'coming out' as a gay man with transgender children 'coming out' as trans. However, banning puberty blockers is truly giving kids 'time to think' so this is a massive win.

WinterCrow · 11/12/2024 17:03

The BBC reportly on this fairly, for once in its miserable existence. I can't see a journalist's name attached though - am I missing it?

The BBC reports Wes Streeting calling puberty blockers for gender dysphoric children 'a scandal'.

Indefinite ban on puberty blockers to be introduced

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2z0gx3p5o

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 11/12/2024 16:48

Each step forward on this issue fills me with deep joy. We've been trying to get puberty blockers seen as the appalling medical scandal they are for so many years. Wonderful the children saved from this going forward!

Merry Christmas everybody!

borntobequiet · 11/12/2024 16:15

Grown up contributions from many. Emotive, misleading and untrue from others.

StressedLP1 · 11/12/2024 15:58

readers are currently losing their shit over at the guardian. Cass report a “farce” and “discredited” etc etc

Manderleyagain · 11/12/2024 15:54

I was really impressed with him in the bits I saw. I didn't see the actual statement, just alot of the questions from mps. A green lady told him he was discriminatory. A couple of MPs read out something from the council of europe saying that it would be unethical to do a trial if the drugs were otherwise unavailable. A man with a rainbow lanyard asked if they were banning the drugs for "cis children" as well as "trans children". Each time he replied calmly, in the latter case saying that there is a good evidence base for other uses so this is only about banning it for this specific use which has a poor evidence base and prescribing would be unsafe.

It sounds like there will be a clinical trial once ethical approval has been achieved (not sure how they will do that) but otherwise the treatment is banned in nhs and private clinics.

borntobequiet · 11/12/2024 14:56

MrBungle · 11/12/2024 14:51

Any video by any chance?

You can watch here, just scroll back to about 13:30

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcparliament

Watch BBC Parliament live - BBC iPlayer

Watch BBC Parliament live on BBC iPlayer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcparliament

IDareSay · 11/12/2024 14:54

Go to Parliament TV and rewind to 1.30pm

www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/5c91805c-f151-45de-b806-816d8b7215d8

MrBungle · 11/12/2024 14:51

Any video by any chance?