Ban on puberty blockers to be made indefinite on experts’ advice

Janice Turner in the Times on the PB trial

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https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/dont-allow-puberty-blockers-to-sneak-back-in-wtb36np3r

She sums up the problems with running this trial very clearly.

He's turned off replies.

To be fair to Sophie, I see the parallel with Mengele when it comes to medical experimentation on children. Does that count?

Edited to add, I see you said similar @RoamingGnome

That tweet from the fragrant Sophie is absolutely vile. I hope he's getting telt.

I'd use stronger language but I hope you get the idea.

In all seriousness I think giving children puberty blockers has quite a lot in common with some of the 'experiments' done in concentration camps - let's see what happens if we prevent a physically healthy child going through natural puberty. Unethical and cruel experiments done in the name of ideology.

Do they actually know what went on in Auschwitz or are they actually deluded enough to think that banning puberty blockers is comparable?

That's sick. Anyone who has read about the Holocaust would know better than to make that comparison.

Well well well the fragrant ‘Sophie’ ramping up the hyperbole.

The whole bringing in the holocaust for extra emotional blackmail looks very familiar 🤔

Oh look everyone! We have a ghost posting on Mumsnet!

I think he stopped earlier this year. As far as I know he hasn't publicly stated a reason.

how did I miss that? When did he stop practicing and why?

Jolyon is no longer a practising barrister so not under the regulation of the BSB anymore

i don't know how tweets like Joylon's don't at least result in him being debarred professionally.

Have people forgotten Bridgend?

People like Joylon will have blood on their hands THEN blame it on the PB ban.

Fully agree.

Unfortunately Jolyon has blocked me:

Welcome to the club he has a very fragile ego when you say anything critical.

BBC Newsbeat is aimed at young people 😠

These kids are vulnerable already, as we know. This is abhorrent beyond belief.

JM et al are Solomon Grundy-ing or Zuleika Dobson-ing distressed children and young people. As people repeatedly emphasise, this couldn't be more contrary to guidance in this area.

i don't know how tweets like Joylon's don't at least result in him being debarred professionally.

Have people forgotten Bridgend?

People like Joylon will have blood on their hands THEN blame it on the PB ban.

It is escalating. These kids are vulnerable already, as we know. This is abhorrent beyond belief.

It's not new but I agree it's escalating.

Exactly.

Jolyon too. I had a peep on X earlier this morning to see how it was all playing out. Here's a slightly crass post from Wings of Scotland. Unfortunately Jolyon has blocked me:

https://x.com/WingsScotland/status/1867230532977012978?t=4P85D6OlsJ4cBJOCGudEhA&s=19

I saw Alice Littman's mum too:

https://x.com/alicemydaughter/status/1867179720942489700?t=6tA7Yg4tIcTXABK3LQ2OsQ&s=19

From memory, Alice would have been outside the scope of the Louis Appleby work because of a) already getting "gender affirming" cross-sex hormones from a private pathway and b) not being within the age range for puberty blockers. I feel desperately sad for Caroline but this is irresponsible.

I wonder if Georgia Tennant will pop up and contribute to it.

This needs urgent action from the government. They've got everything they need to come down hard on this.

ButterflyHatched · Yesterday 22:06

The UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights disagrees with you

Along with Tara Hudson, Karen White, Isla Bryson.

Threatening to 'thcream and thecream until I thick', indeed.

I haven't read the article but I've read the direct quote. It's an incitement that isn't too dissimilar to what a build up to Waco or Jonestown must have looked like. Only this time it's online and the core belief isn't god, it's the idea that we've all got a gender identity.

Yes, was watching a documentary about Waco just yesterday. It's not new but I agree it's escalating.

Fucking hell.

I haven't read the article but I've read the direct quote. It's an incitement that isn't too dissimilar to what a build up to Waco or Jonestown must have looked like. Only this time its online and the core belief isn't god, it's the idea that we've all got a gender identity.

I hope this gets cracked down on in a similar way to how a religious call of this sort would.

This is so dangerous to vulnerable children and young people who are already feeling distressed about themselves.

It's "look what you made me do" on what could be an unfathomable scale.

According to Maxine on BBC Newsbeat (who went abroad to get PBs) they are fine as it stopped them from growing a beard etc.

https://x.com/journalismseen/status/1867523781599932789?s=46&t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

I think he's a pragmatist who doesn't want to sacrifice his long term political career on the altar of gender ideology because he can see which way the wind is blowing, so he's decided to be one of the first people to publicly inject some sanity back into the proceedings.