Free advice line for female victims welcomes transwomen

And offensive. It implies that I collude in my own oppression. Fuck that noise.

i don't know how there can be stats anyway. I have been banging on about this for year: if the police can't (because they don't seem to want to) record sex and gender identity (if that person has one) then we can't know how many trans people are affected by anything

"Cis" is a nonsense term.

just because you don't understand something doesn't mean its baseless

It is baseless though 🤷‍♀️ men can't "understand womanhood" in any other way than second hand.

But 2/3 of 1% is still a lot less than1/5 of 51%. And we don't like cis, we're just women as has been used in English time out of mind and no asked if we would like to chqnge.
You are putting a very small m,inority againsta majority, with no reason as in rationality behind it.

If transwomen identify as women, present like women, live their lives as women, and are 100% women, when they are the victims of sexual assault, surely they are also targeted as women?
Why the separate stats?

sources pls

if you want to have a baby, and you are unable for whatever reason and you want to use a surrogate. Are you going for a trans woman. Or the old fashioned type? Can you tell the difference then?

do you have some UK based statistics to back up that claim?

OK so follow this:

You can't define something by using its name. Pure logic. Things have to be defined by something else. In the case of sex you can use any number of things, but let's pick one, XY or XX. Simple. Woman is XX, man is XY.

Now try it with gender. Try to define 'man' and 'woman' without using the word itself (or male/female etc. that's cheating), or any harmful stereotypes.

Yall who think the definition of woman is based on gender don't have the same scientific foundation for your defintion, though, do yall?

Also 'cis ladies'. No, reported.

all definitions are made up

So are capital letters. But keeping their meaning consistent is useful to allow what we are saying to be more coherent.

Where?

The reason I keep asking is that you keep 'yalling' and I don't know if you are aware where this website is based.

soConfusedByYalliThoughtThisWasaParentingSite my point was this was not advertised as a 'female helpline'. it was advertised for women, and they obviously are working with a definition of woman thats based on gender instead of birth sex

Interesting re-interpretation of the words 'female' and 'woman', as if they mean different things. Interesting, but groundless. Why would anyone 'work on a definition of woman' that is includes women who are not female? Females who are not women? It just doesn't make sense, so let's just stick to the established, biologically accurate definition.

A woman is an adult human female human being

An adult female human being or an adult human female, either works

transexual women still get the worst in terms of sex based violence

Where?

i heard you the first time. my point was this was not advertised as a 'female helpline'. it was advertised for women, and they obviously are working with a definition of woman thats based on gender instead of birth sex

There is no such definition. A woman is an adult human female human being. Women are not a group of female people and some male people who fancy that they are women. They've made up their own definition to pander to activists.

Oh, a troll.

But woman = adult human female, a group in which transwomen do not belong

Dear Confused. Humans are divided, mostly into two groups, plus a few utliers. One group, men, are responsible for 98% sexual crimes. Not 98% of men of course, a minority are responsible for most of it. They aren't morked with a forehead tattoo, so no one knows which they are.
The second group, actually slightly more than 50% suffer more of those crimes, and need help when they do.
The outliers may suffer harm as well and need support.. But they are few. A percentatge of 1%.
If they occupy the help offered to women, they deny the space the women need. That is, the 1% drive out the 51%. Why the hell should the women creep off to find some "anti trans" group when they have the greater need. Talk about dog in the manger.
A trans woman doing that is compounding the harm other men have caused, and if they can't see that they don't deserve to be admitted to any group of women. Real ones