Caitlin Moran - no more sold out gigs?

she's a proponent of fun feminism, the kind which centres men.

She had to share a bedroom with her sisters. Not sure if she's ever mentioned that.

This. She is dull and cowardly (woke?). I read one of her books but now I turn the page and don’t read her column. TBH I wish they would get rid of her.

Yes her claim to be working class is laughable she is as mc as it comes its patronising

I knew families like this middle class boho types they usually didn't have tv's which the rest of us found astonishing and wore odd knitted jumpers (ok maybe not all of them) anyway they were recognisable

I did not know that, she must have kept that quiet 😆

I agree. I remember reading it and thought all of her whacky childhood and teenage anecdotes read like the worst kind of chick lit comedy fiction. I also hate the way she claims to be working class, simply because she was raised on benefits. Everything about her childhood is middle class, from her boho parents’ backgrounds to her homeschooling (which would be called unschooling nowadays IMO).

Anyway, I digress. I read that book expecting righteous feminism and instead got an autobiography sprinkled with weak libfem takes.

Did you know she was a teenage writer prodigy? She never mentions it.

I thought Raised by Wolves was pretty funny. I have no view beyond that.

I dunno. I can think of some very expensively educated non-thinkers and some self-taught people who've stayed curious.

I suspect that her being an 'autodidact' and having little or no formal education has resulted in her being something of a one trick pony?

My favourite show - and I note that despite his 'weedy lefty Guardianista' caricature persona (against the Sandbrook 'red meat and the Telegraph' counterpoint) has also said nice things about JKR, thrown the odd bit of shade on biology deniers and generally not contradicted DS.

A massive relief, after the utter disappointment of TRIP.

TRIH is one of the best podcasts out there and Dominic Sandbrook seems to have no truck with identity politics, thank goodness.

I also recommend his books about the social and political history of the 50s onwards (Never Had It So Good, White Heat, State of Emergency, Seasons in the Sun and Who Dares Wins). They are massive but they go into so much detail and are very well written.

Neither of them kept it off.

I quite liked India’s book on shopping, she’s a good evocative writer but another one with hobby opinions she can’t live up to.

Meh. Well she has always annoyed the living crap out of me. Same goes for her waffly-feminist-lite books pretending to have discovered feminist thought. Her refusal to enter into this discussion simply confirms my irritation 🤷🏻‍♀️

She has morphed into the female Adrian Chiles.

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He sounds lovely! And very honest.

I have never understood to love for CM her book How to be a Woman was just tiresome after the first chapters

She has always tried too hard to appear that she isn’t trying hard at all but as pp she has worked hard to cultivate this persona

My dear father used to describe his grandparenting style as 'never being in the same room as an unpopular decision'.

He didn't make a career out of it, though.

Moran is always things to all men.

A recent column was all about hedgehogs and how she used to rescue them from cattle grids and how dreadful it is that their habitat is being destroyed.

Next week’s was how her local beauty spot was being destroyed for housing but this is ok as the kids need somewhere to live.

Like I said, keeping all options open while not dating to say anything faintly controversial

I'm glad that it isn't just me who thinks that! CM reminds me of the desperate to be cool,clever girls the awful comprehensive school we attended.

I would argue that lots of posters back in the early dial up days were fast moving, astute and witty.
It was women with access to the internet who were twisting the traditional attitudes to motherhood in an anonymous arena. Lots lurked because the standards of grammar and comedy were high. She was n't unusual.

I think I remember her posts on MN. They were witty and astute in the way that quite a few MNers were in those days, but I always got the impression that her journalism was essentially an over-development of her MN posting style.
It seemed crazy that she got so much kudos for so long. Funny paragraphs on a forum, rapidly crafted to to fit the vibe of "look at the words I just dashed off quickly with one hand while breastfeeding my baby" aren't really a substitute for genuinely insightful writing.

Not when it comes to her kids:

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/alastair-campbell-interviews-caitlin-moran

I thought she was rather opposed to private school.

Whether it's the "I'm mad me" gurning or saying she sent her kids to a private school because she couldn't get them in at a state school, Caitlin "Did you know I was brought up on a council estate in Wolverhampton" Moran is as genuine as a two bob note. She's always had too much time on her hands.

I see she's doing an event in February in Manchester - just her - at a venue that has capacity for a relatively small number of (800). There's still tickets available.

I don’t get the adulation and accolades that this nobody gets. I do not rate her writing and I don’t care about her opinions. Never have.