Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transgender Activists Question The Movement's Confrontational Approach

80 replies

ArabellaScott · 26/11/2024 16:41

😶

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/26/us/politics/transgender-activists-rights.html

New York Times.

comments are illuminating. Preference falsification, anyone?

https://archive.ph/QKrr9

OP posts:
Alibababandthe40sheets · 26/11/2024 17:08

TRAs are the very definition of “Hoist with his own petard”.

It is really unfortunate because when this movement started there was a really protective feeling beginning to develop around people who suffered from gender dysphoria as there absolutely should be but getting into bed with the boundary busting fethisists and other narcissists who just can’t hear the word no has done them all in together. 10 years from now the creepy boundary pushers will have found another cause to trample over us all.

ArabellaScott · 26/11/2024 16:59

Scrolling down further, and every comment I'm seeing could have come off of FWR posts.

'It’s simple. Not medical transitioning for children (the same way we say no tattoos) and respect biological females’ rights in sports and safe spaces.'

OP posts:
ArabellaScott · 26/11/2024 16:57

Top five comments by recommends:

'I am a UC Berkeley graduate, blue dyed Democrat who has voted for Democrats my entire life. Having grown up in the Bay Area and lived in San Francisco I’ve had both gay and straight friends and always supported equality laws such as same sex marriage. The transgender issue is a much more complex issue. I personally do not believe for instance that biological males who identify as females should compete in women’s sports. Nor should they compete in women’s pageants. Frankly the whole discussion is ludicrous but I’m not allowed to say that because it makes me a “transphobe.” So now anytime I see an article pushing for transgender rights I skip it because I’m tired of the conversation and focus on the “rights” of less than .01% of the population who suffer from identity issues. Again I say this as a Democrat. So if you wonder why transgender rights are having trouble gaining traction with the public, I’m just one person who’s already had enough.'

'You lose support when anyone asking basic questions is categorized as transphobic.'

'The presumption of this article and of those quoted in it is that "everyone else is wrong and they just need to work on the tactics of convincing everyone else why they are wrong." I found no introspection as to whether the movement itself is wrongheaded and that maybe, perhaps, biological sex is a real thing and can't be changed, and that we should be encouraging non-conforming kids to accept themselves rather than to capitulate to external pressures about what their gender should look like or become transgender. The transgender movement has almost nothing in common with the movement for homosexual rights, yet the article presents them as if they are analogous.'

'I have voted blue in many elections. The pendulum has gone way too far here. When your daughter and her team is playing soccer against a biological male and that person is clearly benefitting from discordant biology on the field, I have a problem with that. Democrats have become the party of pronouns over people.'

'This reckoning has been a long time coming. The pronoun madness, drag story time, bathroom wars, cis name calling and general overreach of the trans community has done irreparable harm to the LGB community and just general sanity.'

OP posts:
ILikeDungs · 26/11/2024 16:53

Would it be possible to screenshot some of the comments? I can't open the top link and the archive link does not include them. Many thanks if you can

ArabellaScott · 26/11/2024 16:42

'Fewer Americans today than two years ago say they support some of the rights that L.G.B.T.Q. activists have pushed for, like allowing children to undergo gender transition treatment, according to the Public Religion Research Institute. And multiple recent polls have found that a considerable majority of Americans believe advocacy for transgender rights has gone “too far.”'

FILE - Christine Zuba, who came out as a transgender woman at age 58, stands for a portrait at her home in Blackwood, N.J., on Monday, Feb. 14, 2022. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski, File)

Transgender-rights advocates say the election of Trump and his allies marks a major setback

Election victories for Donald Trump and other candidates whose campaigns demeaned transgender people reinforced a widespread backlash against trans rights.

https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-transgender-rights-lgbtq-donald-trump-3bb3ace81ff32b6dec382b486ec6a772

OP posts:
Swipe left for the next trending thread