Calling all biological - cis - women. Could we all stop raping each other please? (BBC Radio 4)

@AmaryllisNightAndDay to be fair it wasn't aimed at anyone! I only read the first post and my brain clammed up in refusal to entertain and of that shite 😂

Women's bathrooms are very dangerous places , if Emily Chung is to be believed. And as for men's , well very few people make it out of those places unscathed , if at all. A dystopian hellscape.

The trans community will just have to have their own safe toilets.
Perhaps they could secure funding from the huge pharma companies which make puberty blockers and hormones?

I can imagine say a female prison is somewhere where there is a higher risk of female sexual abuse, I can't think of many other places.

Yes, but if there is a joint enterprise rape in a female only space, it means that there is a man in there. It's a distraction from Emily Chung, whataboutery, when the subject is female only spaces.

If that was for me - I was just pointing out how effective "Out for Independence" (et al) have been.

If you aid and abet in a rape you can still be charged with rape. Joint enterprise rules?

So that's the only way a biological woman can legally be charged with rape. I think it's happened once it twice.

Eh?

Emily Chung from Out for Independence, the LGBTQ+.wing of the Scottish National Party.

Because their LGBTQ+ policies have gone so well for the SNP. Just think, if Scotland had been independent all this batshit could have been ours already. Imagine, a whole tranche of potentially pro-indepedence Scottish voters sighing with relief when Westminister intervened over self-id. Foot, gun, bang.

(edit for spelling correction)

Well.
we CAN stop SA committed by bio men/trans women by not allowing in women only safe space.
So, 100% ban them.

The other “issue” is a matter for another day.

Is the logic then that women rape other women anyway so let's let the men in to rape them some more?

Have been flashed at( several times ), groped repeatedly ( once memorably in a chip shop queue) , pursued down a dark street by a masturbating person and surprise ,surprise all of these people had penises. Not once have I been assaulted by a " vagina presenting" person. Strange ,no?

Rff defer r

It was the maddest interview I've heard in a long time. I don't think it was the win EC thought it might be.

“you have a board and you’re looking to get 50% women. An applicant walks in (Jane Doe) she has long hair, uses she/her pronouns, she’s called Jane, she’s dressed femininely. In those social situations your not going to do any of the tests that would distinguish a tw from a non-tw so it wouldn’t make sense to include them as separate … tw live socially as women for the vast majority of situations … tw will have more understanding of pregnancy and maternity because they have to have lots of medical interventions” (not an exact transcript)

Yes she basically said that the concern about the board was that FWS supposed there would be a 100% male perspective if a board was 50% and 50% "trans women" but that was really really unlikely and also they live as women anyway so don't have a male perspective

Very rare, and no-one thinks they actually did the penetrating with a penis.

May as well argue that there's no need to be wary of snakes when visiting India as we have venomous snakes in the UK

I just want to echo what @WearyAuldWumman said. Have experienced SA from men. Never a woman. (Version 1.0 woman I mean)

These people live in a fantasy world.

There are also voyeurism, exibitionism, harrassment and sexual assault. None of which women want to encounter when we're just out for a bit of exercise.

Exactly.

This.

Er...not many TiMs pass as women. And understanding pregnancy and birth because you have had surgery? Duh? Where did that idea come from? The entitlement of the suggestion could only belong to men.
Also, 'women' are now non-tw? Non-transwomen?

They live in la-la land.

That interview was insane…

“you have a board and you’re looking to get 50% women. An applicant walks in (Jane Doe) she has long hair, uses she/her pronouns, she’s called Jane, she’s dressed femininely. In those social situations your not going to do any of the tests that would distinguish a tw from a non-tw so it wouldn’t make sense to include them as separate … tw live socially as women for the vast majority of situations … tw will have more understanding of pregnancy and maternity because they have to have lots of medical interventions” (not an exact transcript)

There are also voyeurism, exibitionism, harrassment and sexual assault. None of which women want to encounter when we're just out for a bit of exercise.

Exactly how are they ignoring this

ArabellaScott · Today 07:37

Chung has a male sibling who says he is a woman.

Well, that explains a lot.

On SA by women, I read of one who sexually assaulted two different women in a nightclub, earlier this year. At 54, I don't think I've ever seen such a story before, it must be vanishingly unusual.