Gay icons Bronksi Beat call out LGBAlliance as a "fake gay rights group" and disapprove of them using Smalltown Boy

Bit of a derail, possibly, but I am actually deeply fed up with celebs espousing on stuff rather than just doing their jobs. Several friends are raving about how funny, light-hearted and almost nostalgic The Rivals is, especially if you read it as a teen… but I just cannot bring myself to watch it because DT is in it and he makes my blood boil now. Such a talented actor and I’ve loved some of the recent non Dr Who stuff he’s done. I just enjoy a film/show/music track all the more the less I know about the real lives and opinions of the actors, singers, writers.

Can they all just go back to doing their jobs? Producing art and promoting it without the side helping of polemic?

There was a TV documentary about the actual people behind the story at one time but I'm not sure if it's still available... if I find it I'll post it here. Some background info in this article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-30728604 All quite moving actually!

I loved Jimmy back in the early 80s. He was some man to dance. He'd be bopping away in the Bell , Kings Cross all night. Boy George would be still though , posing in his geisha girl outfit. A couple of years later I worked the bar at Perverts for the Pits in Stoke Newington. Bronski Beat and Ben Zephaniah. Perhaps @Ketzele was there? A Notts miner spoke and got quite emotional.
So in a nutshell : cop the fuck on Jimmy. As Graham Greene once said ' it's a writer's job to speak for the victims - and the victims are always changing'

Now that IS funny! 😂

If Chris wants to try and tell gay men* they can’t listen to Judy Garland, Cher or Kylie ever again I am off to buy a shit ton of popcorn.

*Obvs not all gay men love Cher etc but I spent enough time at G A Y at the Astoria back in the day to know there are plenty who will fight for their right to keep at least one of the above 3 and Madonna, Britney & Donna Summer on their playlists!

As a GC woman (and a real female one at that) who supports the work of the LGBA I've just played Small Town Boy at full volume whilst extending a single finger in salute to JS.

This. Often we overlook the most obvious things 😬

Love to know which music belongs to the straight community that gay people are to be excluded from using….

Country and Western? Nickelback?

Abba springs to mind.

Oh yeah, men get their own stuff and our stuff too. I forgot!

Oh @maltravers 🙄
You have completely missed the point.

MEN are allowed to have boundaries.
WOMEN were born to be doormats.

@Ketzele thank you, lovely to hear some personal insight

Not sure but he hates women and LGB people if that helps

Your mates at Stonewall don't have the support of all homosexual or bisexual people either so they must never use anything made by anyone who is L, G or B. Fair's fair after all

Anyone know if the OP is LGB or trans? Can't remember, don't post here much any more.

He can have his say but it’s meaningless and he can’t do anything about it.

Another one who knew who the OP was going to be as soon as I read the title…

Love to know which music belongs to the straight community that gay people are to be excluded from using….

Oh, are boundaries allowed? In that case, perhaps TW shouldn’t be using stuff/places that belong to the female community.

Rather ironic to be calling the LGBA fake in the defence of a movement that has fakery at it's core.

As soon as I saw the headline I knew, magically, who had posted it. Feminine intuition or summat.

Is the rank hypocrisy that gets me.

These men are all transwomen are women, just that penetrate. Leaping up and down like Duracell bunnies on acid, when they all align to appropriate womanhood and invade our spaces, but suddenly morph right back into being gay men, the minute they want to talk about homosexuality and defend their gay friends.

Defending homosexuality whilst simultaneously claiming it doesn't exist.

Utter tossery.

Ah the poster that is the gift that keeps on giving!

WaitingforStrike, they were actually realistic! I'll never forget how excited we were when the miners turned up, not just seeing them there but realising we had turned a massive corner in getting accepted by the mainstream left.

It's hard for people now to remember how despised we were, and how politically risky it was to stand up for gay rights. Pride 84 was an early chink of light, then we had the bad days of Aids and Clause 28 but when the storm clouds cleared we were in a different land. Amazing social change in just a decade.