Another barnpot MP - "Transmen are men"

That description would be more snappy if you omitted the first three words.

Oh. Him.

If a trans man's gender dysphoria is mild enough that they can cope with going through pregnancy and childbirth, they can cope with being referred to as a woman.

I assume they’ve turned comments off now - there are none to be seen on that link.

I was just thinking "dickhead" would be appropriate!

"bollock gantry"

Brilliant

Well that must have simplified your decision, Kuc, if you ever did harbour any doubts! Much as mine was by Nandy. But Sobell is prob worse, if anything.

I voted Tory, it was a weird experience watching my hand write the 'x' like it had been possessed. It was made easier by knowing my marginal was going to flip LD no matter who I voted for. I'd received a nice, very GC letter from the then Tory incumbent which helped. I don't know what I'd have done if my vote had really mattered. Also encouraged my kids to vote Green to waste their votes save the Green candidates deposit, I don't know if they did.

My MP, and what an utter penis he is.

I didn't vote for him - anybody remember all the vote-scolding before the GE, when all the "I'm as GC as they come but..." crew were telling us how women owed their vote to The Good Guys, spoiling your vote was simultenousely an act of despicable cruelty towards the poor tired counters and also a complete waste of time, etc etc? Yep, I spoiled my ballot with "Respect My Sex If You Want My X" and "No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her sex."

Whilst I'm sure the crew were correct that my ballot paper was flung, completely unobserved, upon the scrap heap of crazy-people-votes as a last desperate act by the exhausted counter before they slumped lifeless to the floor, at least a tiny part of me hopes that maybe the smug ignorant bollock gantry might have had to take note that not everybody in his constituency is as high on the collective Righteous farts of TRSOH.

Exactly.
And "what medication are you on?" would cover the clinically relevant bit.

As has often been said, the NHS no more needs to know your gender than it does your star-sign.

Well, he's right on this

Alex Sobel argued that failing to ask trans men if there is a possibility they could be pregnant before hospital treatment could result in “serious consequences”.

Which is why it's important that sex is accurately recorded and used throughout the health system, even if 'gender' is an optional extra too.

I do think some trans activists are a GC fifth column...not this guy though, he's just wrong in the head.

Yeah, pretty much.

And that he couldn't care less about the rights of people affected by his cause

Justme56 · Yesterday 20:28

Happy to refer to Sobel as ‘a person with a penis’ if Sobel is so against gendered language. Works for me!

Kuckinghitam coined the phrase Bollock Gantry.

Ingenieur · Yesterday 19:50

At least his motivations are clear

What are his motivations? To demonstrate to the maximum number of people that he's wrong in the head?

Because other loons voted for him and didn’t see this as a problem

Sorry, Grimgrump! My bad.

Yes, I agree, and didn’t mean to imply that man and woman were gendered language. As you say, it was when they started to be colonised that I changed to more generic sexed terms to be more pointed about biology. Only to find those being eroded as well.

I know it's not your main point, Grimgrump, but "woman" is not gendered language, either.
It's sexed language, just more specific than "female".

But yeah, the land grabbing of language by TAs did cause many people to rethink.

I started using sexed language some years ago when the TRAs started the mantras of TWAW and TMAM. So, Transmen are female (rather than women), Transwomen are male (rather than men). Like many others, I thought that would drive home the material reality and immutability of sexed bodies. But then the TRAs started claiming that they literally changed sex, and became the other sex. But also claimed that sex doesn’t exist and males could be lesbians, dragged DSD people unwillingly into the trans umbrella, etc. And were given mainstream media platforms to reiterate these ‘facts’ constantly, which emboldened the misogynist beardos and their handmaidens. My BP spiked when I just saw the other day, that Meryl Streep’s screenlab funding to help develop screenplays by women writers over 40 has been expanded to include ‘non-binary’ people. In other words, males (who are so terribly underrepresented in Hollywood 🙄)! Sorry, just needing to vent.

Same. I know it's often a trauma response with women (as distinct from paraphilias with men) but my sympathy cuts out completely when they start harming other women with their lies and demands.

It shows how political parties are so far removed from the electorate that a guy like that could ever be nominated as a potential MP. Sadly.

Diverting attention away from the transwomen who people are starting to look at a little more closely now.
Creep.
Apologise to your Mother Mr Sobral!