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More Canadian madness

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TwistedWonder · 20/11/2024 20:47

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-canadian-mother-was-told-to-be-more-inclusive-after-complaining-about-a-male-wearing-a-childs-bikini-while-showering-with-young-girls-at-her-local-pool

The really have lost the plot - how can anyone justify prioritising men with a fetish over the safeguarding of children?

EXCLUSIVE: Canadian Mother Was Told To Be More "Inclusive" After Complaining About A Male Wearing A "Child's Bikini" While Showering With Young Girls At Her Local Pool - Reduxx

The mother of a young girl in British Columbia, Canada, is speaking out after a man in a pink, sparkly bikini — adorned with sparkles, frills and princess tiaras — was found showering in the female changing room of her local public pool. After reportin...

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-canadian-mother-was-told-to-be-more-inclusive-after-complaining-about-a-male-wearing-a-childs-bikini-while-showering-with-young-girls-at-her-local-pool

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SinnerBoy · 22/11/2024 10:27

PinkChesnut · Today 01:58

The link I had contained one example in particular of a story that had zero proof.

Could you please link to the exact story to which you allude? Nobody knows what it is, you said you don't have time, can you really expect people to take you at your word, which is an unevidenced claim.

theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 22/11/2024 10:27

The day I found out neo nazis hate trans people because they believe trans people were "invented" by Jewish people to "infect" white Christians and turn good white Christian men into women was a day everything started to make sense to me.

And the day I found out that my trans friends believe this nonsense - and not just about neo Nazis - was a day everything started to make sense to me.

One origin of this particular canard seems to be Joyce's decision to write about Jennifer Pritzker. You know, the famous transsexual scion of a big pharma dynasty. But to my trans friends, just a Jew. Ergo, Joyce is an antisemitic conspiracy theorist.

Such a horrible combination of anti-semitism and wilful stupidity.

SinnerBoy · 22/11/2024 10:25

MelodyMalone · 20/11/2024 22:24

    • "Everyone is welcome in our centres in the changeroom where they feel most safe." + +

"Everyone" clearly not including the women and girls who feel most safe in a changing room which doesn't have men in it.

I had that same excerpt on my clipboard and was going to make the same point. All welcome, apart from the pesky majority, who aren't.

Surf2Live · 22/11/2024 10:07

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:43

I would hate to think I diverted anyone's time and attention away from directly harassing trans women.

How awful.

Aaaaannnd there we have it. The mask comes off.

Another TRA trying to wind up another discussion reveals what they think about women on this site fighting for women's rights. That we're all here to harrass "trans women".

At least there is an implicit acknowledgement that trans rights is in conflict with women's rights. But I suspect TRAs don't understand this.

Quite annoying tbf when these discussions get derailed by TRAs, and so I like the suggestion of a PP to create a Bingo card for TRAs on Mumsnet. That would at least give us all a source of amusement when they do this.

Surf2Live · 22/11/2024 10:03

Waitwhat23 · 22/11/2024 07:18

I'm so tempted to produce a 'TRA's on Mumsnet' bingo card, and I swear, the centre tile will be 'I have LOADS of evidence but I'm not going to tell you, because you're mean'

Toddlers have better reasoning abilities.

Please do. That would be a game I would enjoy playing, as I suspect would many other MNers.

RedToothBrush · 22/11/2024 10:02

Shortshriftandlethal · 22/11/2024 09:34

The irony and double think is off the scale. Seriously!

This is a board for women to discuss the issues of trans ideology and how it impacts upon women and children, not how it impacts upon men/male people.

We are not allowed to centre women and girls on a feminist forum.

Didn't you know?

Shortshriftandlethal · 22/11/2024 09:34

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:43

I would hate to think I diverted anyone's time and attention away from directly harassing trans women.

How awful.

The irony and double think is off the scale. Seriously!

This is a board for women to discuss the issues of trans ideology and how it impacts upon women and children, not how it impacts upon men/male people.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 22/11/2024 09:26

@PinkChesnut

Just for future reference: it is better to use the words ‘ transwoman’ or ‘transwomen’ when referring to female Identifying males. The use of ‘trans’ as a separate adjective in this case can lead to confusion, as it should be taken to mean a natal woman who is ‘trans’ , rather than ( as you intend, I believe) a man in a sparkly bikini .

I should point out that we have no evidence that the person with emphatically male anatomy is actually ‘trans’. Perhaps he is just a bloke who likes wearing bikinis, nothing wrong with anyone’s sartorial choices, of course.

Your previous comment about the sources of ‘trans hatred’ bears repeating, though, thanks for that information, really interesting , I will bear it in mind.

‘The day I found out neo nazis hate trans people because they believe trans people were "invented" by Jewish people to "infect" white Christians and turn good white Christian men into women was a day everything started to make sense to me.’

MelodyMalone · 22/11/2024 09:05

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 09:01

Past experience would lead me to believe there are always a few rotten apples in a crowd, sadly.

Well, that's a meaningless reply if ever I've heard one!

Wasn't it you who mentioned straw men?

I'm off to harass trans people do some work. Bye.

NotBadConsidering · 22/11/2024 09:04

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 09:02

Maybe no money to do so? Libel cases are usually quarter of a mil.

Ok, good luck suing OldCrone then 🤣🤣

AlisonDonut · 22/11/2024 09:03

Isn't 'not posting in good faith' some sort of issue on here?

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 09:02

NotBadConsidering · 22/11/2024 08:57

Discovery on those suits turns up the BEST stuff.

Yes, quite. Yet no one has sued Reduxx for libel, despite it being a regular purveyor of lies, according to you. Why is that?

Instead their stories discover the BEST stuff.

Maybe no money to do so? Libel cases are usually quarter of a mil.

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 09:01

MelodyMalone · 22/11/2024 08:57

Again, you have evidence of this?

Past experience would lead me to believe there are always a few rotten apples in a crowd, sadly.

MelodyMalone · 22/11/2024 08:57

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:56

It would be absolutely terrible tho, if in replying to me, someone was not able to use that time to be a prat on TwiX to a trans woman.

Again, you have evidence of this?

NotBadConsidering · 22/11/2024 08:57

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:54

I would be delighted were she to sue me for libel. :)

Discovery on those suits turns up the BEST stuff.

Discovery on those suits turns up the BEST stuff.

Yes, quite. Yet no one has sued Reduxx for libel, despite it being a regular purveyor of lies, according to you. Why is that?

Instead their stories discover the BEST stuff.

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:56

MelodyMalone · 22/11/2024 08:53

I haven't engaged with this conversation since it seems to be on a hiding to nowhere, but this is very unfair.

You have no evidence at all that anyone here would directly harass trans women. I certainly wouldn't and I doubt anyone else would. Discussing a story on a relevant forum is not harassment.

It would be absolutely terrible tho, if in replying to me, someone was not able to use that time to be a prat on TwiX to a trans woman.

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:54

NotBadConsidering · 22/11/2024 08:53

Again, who is “she”?

Where is the proof “she” has lied on Reduxx?

You’ve had a long time to fact check your claim. You’re talking on another thread about libel, and here you are saying a named individual lies on a website. Hypocrite much?

I would be delighted were she to sue me for libel. :)

Discovery on those suits turns up the BEST stuff.

MelodyMalone · 22/11/2024 08:53

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:43

I would hate to think I diverted anyone's time and attention away from directly harassing trans women.

How awful.

I haven't engaged with this conversation since it seems to be on a hiding to nowhere, but this is very unfair.

You have no evidence at all that anyone here would directly harass trans women. I certainly wouldn't and I doubt anyone else would. Discussing a story on a relevant forum is not harassment.

NotBadConsidering · 22/11/2024 08:53

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:49

I would laugh if that happened, but it would be incorrect.

Publica, a site she also runs, is the one in this specific instance.

Do i doubt she lies on reduxx? No. Do i have energy or time to fact check her rn? Also no.

Again, who is “she”?

Where is the proof “she” has lied on Reduxx?

You’ve had a long time to fact check your claim. You’re talking on another thread about libel, and here you are saying a named individual lies on a website. Hypocrite much?

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:49

NotBadConsidering · 22/11/2024 08:44

Is this going to be another 'peer review style' link where one poster states it, another quotes it, this then gets quoted elsewhere and then this is 'evidence' of the link?

Give it a day or two, and someone will update that RationalWiki page to have a statement that Reduxx isn’t reliable with a link to PinkChesnut’s post as proof, which links to RationalWiki as proof, and so on, thus completing the circular referencing TRAs are so fond of.

I would laugh if that happened, but it would be incorrect.

Publica, a site she also runs, is the one in this specific instance.

Do i doubt she lies on reduxx? No. Do i have energy or time to fact check her rn? Also no.

NotBadConsidering · 22/11/2024 08:44

Is this going to be another 'peer review style' link where one poster states it, another quotes it, this then gets quoted elsewhere and then this is 'evidence' of the link?

Give it a day or two, and someone will update that RationalWiki page to have a statement that Reduxx isn’t reliable with a link to PinkChesnut’s post as proof, which links to RationalWiki as proof, and so on, thus completing the circular referencing TRAs are so fond of.

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:43

Shortshriftandlethal · 22/11/2024 08:35

Ditto!

You are wasting everyone's valuable time and energy. You have landed yourself in a situation in which you cannot function or engage in a meaningful or constructive way.

Edited

I would hate to think I diverted anyone's time and attention away from directly harassing trans women.

How awful.

AlisonDonut · 22/11/2024 08:42

If she is researching and writing half of Reduxx's articles, running the The Publica and The Quartering on the side, then hats off love. That's dedication. Flowers

AlisonDonut · 22/11/2024 08:40

I was waiting for the link to the article that was in question but it seems that we are now saying [happy to be corrected] that Reddux is not valid because one of their journalists is somehow linked to 'The Publica' which when you put into google as a website address goes to 'The Quartering'.

But we have no evidence of this link in any way? Is the link that she once wrote one article or is running it behind the scenes? What is this link?

Is this going to be another 'peer review style' link where one poster states it, another quotes it, this then gets quoted elsewhere and then this is 'evidence' of the link?

Is this 'known' because the poster making this 'link' is a paid up member of 'The Quartering', an Anti-woke website by the looks of it, and is trying to Doxx the journalist on here? That's pretty 'boundary stepping' if so.

If you are going to make these accusations, at least show your workings.

Shortshriftandlethal · 22/11/2024 08:37

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 08:31

Your observations, coloured by your own bias, are unasked for and I shall be disregarding them.

On this board we are biased. We are biased in favour of women and girls. Hope that helps or explains the situation you find yourself in.